Wednesday, August 1, 2007

Re: [MLM Survivors Club] One of the saddest things i have ever seen...

On 8/1/07 11:04 PM, "peripheral_jen" <nascarfan546@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I hope this is ok to post, I thought people here would understand the
> way it made me sad.

Sadly, it brought back memories for me. I guess I've been out long enough
for it to raise these questions for me:

"I wonder how long it will take for them to realize it's a road to nowhere?

I wonder if any of them lurk in this group?"

--
Regards,
John

"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind
and proving that there is no need to do so,
almost everyone gets busy on the proof." - Galbraith

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[MLM Survivors Club] One of the saddest things i have ever seen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7z_kagWas&mode=related&search=

I know there is a ton af pro and anti-mlm stuff on you tube, but this
made me so sad for all those people (oops almost typed sheeple).
Notice that they are driving because most likely they cannot afford to
fly...

:-(

I hope this is ok to post, I thought people here would understand the
way it made me sad.

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[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Believe! A satirical movie on MLMs

I have to admit that peer to peer interactive vertically aligned retail
cooperative is one of the best euphenisms for mlm I have ever heard!

Thanks.

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[MLM Survivors Club] Believe! A satirical movie on MLMs

First off, I'd like to say hello to everyone! A few days ago I quit
a Quixtar MLM and boy am I ever happy! I was in it for a few months
and during the whole time, something just didn't feel quite right.
Unfortunately, my brother has been so indoctrinated with their
principles that I don't know when he'll come to his senses and get
out.

Anyway, I just saw a movie clip for "Believe" and I think the movie
is a fun medium for people to be made aware of the proliferation of
MLM schemes here in the U.S. and worldwide! Unfortunately, it's only
playing in one theater in the the entire U.S., so I'm trying to push
for a group effort for everyone to take action to promote it, so it
can play in more theaters around the country. If you like the clips,
please do help! I will update you with more information as to HOW,
at a later date. If anyone has ideas as to how to get this movie off
the ground, please let me know :)

Here are the links:
www.believethemovie.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b8rwcUVuAw
http://www.youtube.com/believethemovie

Take care, everyone!
Sending out love and blessings,
Nhung Nguyen

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Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Herbalife

On Wednesday 01 August 2007, gimpymommi wrote:
...
> I'm always astounded at the more insane claims I've heard for other
> products - that they cure cancer/MS/asthma/heart disease, etc. Does
> it never occur to these people that the LAST place the "cure for
> cancer" will be found is in some goofball's backyard lab - that only
> the Founder of the Snake Oil himself knows the cure??????????????

That comes from the faith in the human intuition and the need to believe
in the underdog (no relation to the movie coming out this week!). We
somehow believe that bigger companies get bogged down with organization
details and profit motives so they don't focus on actually helping
people. We also like to believe in the country doctor idea: it's the
simple country doctor with strong common sense that has the answers the
big guys don't.

I remember hearing a line in "All in the Family" from Edith, when she
was watching "Marcus Welby." She said, "The world's greatest surgeon
thinks it's a bad heart and Marcus Welby thinks it's a tummy ache."
Another example would be the movie "Doc Hollywood," where Michael J.
Fox's character calls an ambulance and thinks a patient is in serious
trouble and the old doctor just goes into the hallway and gets a soda
from the machine and gives it to the patient who drinks some and is
okay. It turns out it was some kind of gas.

I don't know if it's only an American attitude or not, but when I took
some folklore classes I did find out this is part of at least the
American culture. It's the idea that the human heart will always
triumph over the head.

There are also just enough examples of someone working out of their
garage and blowing away the big companies that reinforce this. Walt
Disney started in his garage, so did Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs with
Apple and so did two brothers who made bicycles in Ohio named Orville
and Wilbur.

With those few examples and the need or willingness to believe, it's a
perfect setup for a company to say, "The big companies don't want this
to be known because they won't make money on an actual cure." After
having watched my Father fight leukemia for 2-3 years and see a
dedicated doctor do everything he could for him and having looked into
the medications as well, when people come up with lines like that, I
just want to forget I'm a pacifist and haul off and give them a hard
one in the gut.

It does play into the American underdog mythos that a smaller company
would find the answer others can't, but overall, it's a load of crap
and those who perpetuate it should be taken away, tied down, and forced
to watch endless reruns of "My Mother the Car" and "The Gong Show" for
the rest of their lives.

Hal

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[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Herbalife

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, momluvseliana <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> I think selling supplements like Herbalife are risky business.

This has always been a concern for me, too. Anyone with a pulse, and
the IQ of a turnip, can go out and sell supplements to the
unsuspecting; and the "Oral Tradition" of MLMs makes sure there's a
lot of hype and misinformation being spread.

Even with something as simple as a multivitamin, you CAN run into trouble:

Many years ago, Amway changed the formulation on their Double X
vitamin - they added Vitamin K. The packaging didn't change, or say
"New and Improved". Thank God, I've got just enough medical knowledge
to know that Vitamin K countereffects blood thinners; and after
talking to Amway's legal department ("the customer should read the
label") and then our OWN legal cousel - I chose to include a warning
label on all the Double X we shipped, saying that people on blood
thinners should consult their doctors before taking the new formula.

Unfortunately, one of our downline IBOs had accumulated the 10 box
tabs it takes to get a free box of Double X, and had redeemed it
directly to Amway. A week later, her husband suffered a serious
stroke - he had been on blood thinners. Granted, he was 80 years old
- so it may have been coincidence, but I suspect not?

I'm always astounded at the more insane claims I've heard for other
products - that they cure cancer/MS/asthma/heart disease, etc. Does
it never occur to these people that the LAST place the "cure for
cancer" will be found is in some goofball's backyard lab - that only
the Founder of the Snake Oil himself knows the cure??????????????

Deb

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[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Why won't she go away?

I deleted the "incredible offer" part - (ugh).

I use this, and another forum, as my Necklace of Garlic in a world of
vampires - once you tell them you post on an anti-MLM forum, they tend
to treat you like a leper, but they leave you alone....LOL!!

Deb

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "Kurt and Deanna"
<kurtanddeanna@...> wrote:
>
> MessageOkay... this (see below) is what I got from my ex MK
director, suggesting that I *re-activate* and do this!!! Who asks
people of this!?!? I have asked her repeatedly to stop contacting me.
UG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do you get rid of them?
>
> Deanna

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