Friday, September 28, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Am I a MLM magnet or what?

Again, I am so glad I know about MLM. The other day my mom, baby,
and I were in line at a fast food Filipino restaurant. Behind us
was a group with one guy and two girls. The guy struck up a
conversation with me by saying nice things about my baby. The other
woman then asked if I was related to so and so blah blah blah. They
then asked me what I did for a living. I told them I was a personal
trainer. They then said that they were interested in personal
training and that they really needed it and asked me for my number.
I then happened to look closer at what they were wearing and I saw
PrimeAmerica on their shirt sleeve. I gave the guy my number
thinking that they may be potential clients since they asked me for
my number. The guy called me the next day and left a message. He
says "Hi Charlene I met you yesterday I want to talk to you about
something." I laughed! I knew it. If he was interested in
personal training he would have said, hi Charlene it's that guy from
the restaurant, I was interested in personal training. I didn't
call him back. He called me again the next day and he says on my
voicemail, "Hi Charlene this is (name) from PrimeAmerica, I was
wondering if you can give me a call, I would like to tell you about
something. I am not calling him back, hope he doesnt call me again
either.

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Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Vending Machine Business - a little OT, but not too muc

> I couldn't agree with Mick more strenuously!!!
> As someone who worked as a vending-route driver
> for several years, take it from me:
> Keeping these machines stocked and maintained is
> HARD WORK, and the risks are considerable!
>
> I wouldn't say he needs to run away -- but be sure
> he considers ALL the details VERY CAREFULLY! As a
> full-time route-driver back in the early 90s, I only
> brought home around $1,600/mo -- nothing to brag to
> mama about!!!

Several of the opportunities that are advertised in local papers are
placed there BY THE MANUFACTURERS of the machines. In other words,
they entice you into buying their machines, which automatically
requires that you buy any replacement parts or supplies from them.
That's not a bad thing; it's simply the way it is.

BUT...

On the flip side, they have no obligation to you, as far as the
"opportunity" they advertised goes. In other words, whether you swim
or sink is TOTALLY on you and not on them. They get their money when
you purchase their machines. Why should they care about you beyond that?

If your machines are broken, vandalized or stolen, YOU have to pay for
repairing or replacing them. YOU have to put in the time and effort
to place them, or YOU have to pay someone to do it for you. Then the
places that accept your machines can ask you to remove them for ANY
reason. There is no security in vending machines.

And I haven't even brought up the gas and the wear & tear on your
vehicle or the cost of stocking your machines with nuts or candies or
whatever.

And of course, I didn't bring up the temptation of having all that
candy around the house. ;-)

I did a vending machine business for a couple of years. A portion of
my proceeds went to a charity. Fortunately, even after the donations,
I broke even on the business. But it wasn't easy, at all.

PW

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Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Vending Machine Business - a little OT, but not too much

I couldn't agree with Mick more strenuously!!! As someone who worked
as a vending-route driver for several years, take it from me:
Keeping these machines stocked and maintained is HARD WORK, and the
risks are considerable!

I wouldn't say he needs to run away -- but be sure he considers ALL
the details VERY CAREFULLY! As a full-time route-driver back in the
early 90s, I only brought home around $1,600/mo -- nothing to brag to
mama about!!!

Words to the wise,
Den <><

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, mick wenlock
<mickwenlock@...> wrote:
>
> where to start?
>
> This is not a good or a bad idea because it all depends on how hard
your husband and his friend want to work at this. It is not a get
rich quick or even a "get rich" scheme. You have to run hard to make
an OK living at it.
>
> Some of the things I guarantee your husband and his friend have not
even considered.
>
> 1) Who provides the locations? If the company you are leasing the
machines from does it then you should be able to get the income
figures for the length of time the mahcines have been installed in
those locations. If your husband and his frfiend are the ones who are
supposed to do this - hav they ever done anyting at all like this in
the past? Most places charge you to have machines in their location
that's if you can persuade them to do it.
>
> 2) where will he get his supplies from?
>
> 3) what insurance will he carry? The machines are EXPENSIVE. There
is also the personal liability of working a business where you carry
cash around.
>
> 4) How much is th maintenance going to cost?
>
> I would suggest that your husband actually contact someone who does
this for a living and do some ridealong and ask some questions.
>
> If you are the type of person who can a) spot a good, secure place
to put a machine b) know what to sell in the machine c) can buy the
supplies cheaply enough to make a profit d) know how to do your own
maintenance then, as I know from a friend of mine who works this
business you can make a fairly OK living.
>
> Be prepared for increased IRS scrutiny - it's a cash business.
>
> Mick
>
> Vicki <v_eller@...> wrote: I know
there are a lot of wise people here, so I am hoping that
> someone may have some knowledge on this topic.
>
> LATE last night after he had a few drinks with a friend, my hubby
> said he would like me to look into the vending machine business.
>
> My first thought is "oh great, some lame get rich quick scheme
that
> won't be worth the time."
>
> I'm willing to bet his buddy was like, "hey dude, we could make
some
> extra cash if we own vending machines."
>
> Can anyone guide me toward some good info on this? I don't know
if
> this is any type of MLM/downline type scheme or what. But my gut
> tells me it's not a wise idea... possibly a money pit.
>
> I will, of course do some additional online research, but hope
> someone has some insight.
>
> Thanks a bunch.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [MLM Survivors Club] scam.com back online

On Friday 28 September 2007, chip_embere wrote:
> Someone here was asking. scam.com seems to be online again.

With a note on the home page, in large, red letters, that says:

STOP HACKING OUR FORUM !!!!

It would seem that either some script kiddies attacked it or they ticked
off someone that wanted to take them down.

Hal

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Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Vending Machine Business - a little OT, but not too much

where to start?

This is not a good or a bad idea because it all depends on how hard your husband and his friend want to work at this. It is not a get rich quick or even a "get rich" scheme. You have to run hard to make an OK living at it.

Some of the things I guarantee your husband and his friend have not even considered.

1) Who provides the locations? If the company you are leasing the machines from does it then you should be able to get the income figures for the length of time the mahcines have been installed in those locations. If your husband and his frfiend are the ones who are supposed to do this - hav they ever done anyting at all like this in the past? Most places charge you to have machines in their location that's if you can persuade them to do it.

2) where will he get his supplies from?

3) what insurance will he carry? The machines are EXPENSIVE. There is also the personal liability of working a business where you carry cash around.

4) How much is th maintenance going to cost?

I would suggest that your husband actually contact someone who does this for a living and do some ridealong and ask some questions.

If you are the type of person who can a) spot a good, secure place to put a machine b) know what to sell in the machine c) can buy the supplies cheaply enough to make a profit d) know how to do your own maintenance then, as I know from a friend of mine who works this business you can make a fairly OK living.

Be prepared for increased IRS scrutiny - it's a cash business.

Mick

Vicki <v_eller@yahoo.com> wrote: I know there are a lot of wise people here, so I am hoping that
someone may have some knowledge on this topic.

LATE last night after he had a few drinks with a friend, my hubby
said he would like me to look into the vending machine business.

My first thought is "oh great, some lame get rich quick scheme that
won't be worth the time."

I'm willing to bet his buddy was like, "hey dude, we could make some
extra cash if we own vending machines."

Can anyone guide me toward some good info on this? I don't know if
this is any type of MLM/downline type scheme or what. But my gut
tells me it's not a wise idea... possibly a money pit.

I will, of course do some additional online research, but hope
someone has some insight.

Thanks a bunch.





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