Thanks for all the info. I'm just worried about my best friend. He's
been there for a month and says after 6 months he will be done. He
doe's volunteer for them every week to get new folks in. Thanks
again for the help.
In mlmsurvivorsclub@
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Wow, I had no idea PW that you went to one of the Landmark Forums.
I
> was introduced to it by a friend of mine at the time a few years
ago.
> I rented space with a massage therapist who also worked for my
> chiropractor back home in N. Va. She kept praising Landmark like it
> was some kind of God. She kept saying words like "that's your
story"
> or "that's your racket" and "now we can be in the game". I was
> like "huh"? She kept pestering me to go until I went to a freebie
> meeting. She drove me. That's their shtick, if you don't have a
means
> to travel, they'll take you. I should have drove myself. At first
all
> I heard was "how Landmark Edu" helped me and my family. It was the
> end of their forum type event where everyone was happy, happy.
>
> It was okay, but I really didn't learn anything, except hype. My
> friend at the time new I was tough to persuade so she paid for my
> entire landmark forum weekend event. It was an all nighter type to.
> When I came home my husband was concerned for me. Another hyped up
> scenario like Arbonne was. He just asked the right questions after
he
> listened, just like he did with the arbonne bit.
>
> So now I felt forced to go, my friend drove me, and paid for the
> forum sessions which was almost $400 just for a weekend! The first
> day was okay. Alot of philosophy stuff which I actually already new
> most of. My grandfather was a philosophy professor at a college
along
> with working for a think tank type company. Then the next day was
the
> real clincher for me. This is when it turns freaky. You can't
discuss
> anything unless you go up in front of the group and spill your
> deepest issues to the whole group of strangers. I did it once, and
> never felt comfy doing that again the whole weekend. Just didn't
seem
> right. Then you discuss with your neighbor sitting next to you what
> the teacher told us how to handle the scenario better. Nothing
wrong
> with that, just we couldn't talk unless we were told to, that is
how
> I felt. When I asked a ? to my neighbor whispering, I had beady
> little eyes giving me the evil stare, uhg, making me feel like an
> idiot. I mean I wouldn't have minded being "shhhshd" but this was
> beyond the basic "shhh". It was made to make you feel embarrassed
and
> you can only go up to the mike and ask ?'s to the group. I got that.
>
> After, a while they had us sign a questionnaire and give them our
> name, address, tele, and name of significant other. I knew this was
a
> recruitment deal. They also make you check boxes on what has helped
> you so far. Also, to sell their tapes and books ect. Sound
familiar.
> Also, they only had you check a certain kind of box that asked "did
> you learn anything that helped", no box to say if you where not
> happy, hmmm.
>
> I wanted to leave the second day for I was tired of staying up
until
> midnight and I was not comfy in this group scenario, where it was a
> tightly controlled environment. If Landmark really wants you to be
> your best at being yourself "an individual" then why do they make
> everyone act as 1 or like your in a pod of whales?
>
> If you just want philosophy in a group, just got to one of those
> seminars at a college or even a book club who discusses self help
> books will do. My grandfather spoke at those kinds of groups to.
>
> Landmark was just another cultish like atmosphere to me. I didn't
> feel like I could be myself in there even tho that was what they
> where saying their goal was "to make you a better person" kind of
> deal. It's also, in my opinion, to "flippit" of responses they
teach
> people on how to get back at others. Not a lot of tact. If you want
> to learn tact, take etiquette type lessons or communication type
> classes. They are out there.
>
> I really didn't see my friend thinking for herself without
Landmark.
> She volunteered so many hrs a week and I couldn't hang out with her
> any more. She tried to sell landmark to all her massage clients,
and
> even to my chiropractor. We had a time on how to deal with this
> person after a while. She probably is still "landmarked" so much
she
> can't hang out with her regular friends any more. I feel Landmark
> took her away from me and the normal world. She was a great massage
> therapist and because of something that happened in her past and
that
> Landmark brought it back, she changed her career to hypno birthing,
> uhg and she was doing more hypnosis type crap. I just don't do that
> kind of thing. I just felt it was a waist of her talent. She had
> nursing skills as well. I don't feel Landmark helped her except to
> fill a void in my friends life. I was very upset that I could no
> longer have her as a friend unless I was doing Landmark. I had to
> stop renting with her and it was a sad moment when I gave her back
> her key. Between the Landmark and the hypno stuff, I couldn't see
us
> working out.
>
> In my opinion, it's a lemming. A group of people trying to be
leaders
> but they can't be leaders without Landmark.
>
> Janine
>
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