What I hear is "Why can't I just start out and see
> how it goes. Worst case scenario, we've spent $500 on some great
> products and I don't make any money. In fact, many people who do this
> don't do it to make money, but they just love the product and so do
> their friends."
AH! Their key selling line! They used it on me and it worked. And its
not just $500 worth of product. They will push you into buying their
"Starter Set" which is 4 very expensive kits of the anti-aging line
and by the time you've totaled your tax and shipping and "bonus
products", you've spent $1200. (And to this they will say "What
business can you start for $1200 and recover your investment in a few
months??" which is also a lie)
Then you have to count all the "business aids" they will tell you that
you need. I spent several more hundred dollars on those. Then your gas
driving to every relative and friends house "dropping off kits" for
people to try....all the catalogs you have to buy.....all the trade
shows you will go to.....the conference fees.....the monthly meeting
fees....the list goes on and on.
If your friend will listen, you need to emphasize to them that this is
much more than "just $500". As with anything in Arbonne, its deception
deception deception. They glaze over the truth and make it sound so
wonderful. I was told I would be RVP (the people who drive the car and
make $6k a month) in 6 months. In 6 months, I could barely hold onto
my district manager status. They claim at that level that you make
$250-$300 monthly....I was barely making $75. I did everything they
told me to do, I spent hours on the phone, I spent hours traveling
trying to sell their highly overpriced products. My husband was
getting frustrated b/c I was gone all the time when he was home.
LIES LIES LIES...its all lies. I hope you can point them to that
website I gave you and help them avoid this trap. If not, just smile
and be there to comfort them when they've figured it out the hard way.
Sorry to be so wordy! You can email me personally anytime.
Fredia
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<no_reply@..
>
> Thank you!
>
> My potential Arbot may be coming around. All of this helps.
>
> One key sticking point in our discussions seems to be the perception
> that we can just try it out a little bit, and if it doesn't work out,
> then no harm done. What I hear is "Why can't I just start out and see
> how it goes. Worst case scenario, we've spent $500 on some great
> products and I don't make any money. In fact, many people who do this
> don't do it to make money, but they just love the product and so do
> their friends."
>
> My hope (and prayer) is that it never comes to this, but I am very
> concerned that this Arbot-to-be will sign some kind of contract that
> creates a long-term obligation or creates financial/legal hassles. Any
> information about this or examples would certainly help with my case.
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> wrote:
> >
> > For really solid info regarding MLMs please check out and have your
> > loved one check out this website:
> >
> > http://www.mlm-
> >
> > It contains a checklist of questions to ask about your MLM and also a
> > quite extensive list of companies to stay away from. Arbonne is on
> > the list.
> > And I was also a former Arbonne consultant. Feel free to email me
> > anytime with questions and I will answer as best I can. I hope you
> > can steer your loved one clear of this. I lost thousands of dollars.
> >
> > Hopefully,
> > Fredia
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> > <paine_wwweb_
> > >
> > > > Someone I love is considering getting into
> > > > Arbonne. I am skeptical. Can anyone share
> > > > with me compelling, credible evidence and
> > > > anecdotes to help me shed light on this MLM
> > > > company?
> > > >
> > > > I am not interested in stories that could
> > > > be about any company (shipping problems,
> > > > difficulty making returns, etc.) or how
> > > > MLMs change the dynamic between you and
> > > > your friends.
> > > >
> > > > I am interested in solid evidence from
> > > > reliable sources.
> > >
> > >
> > > I doubt you'll get much more than testimonial information. We could
> > > give you substantial information on the MLM industry, even if not
> > > directly related to Arbonne, but you can bet that the person you are
> > > trying to convince will resist any evidence that you might present.
> > > The pat answer is "Our company/group is different. We don't operate
> > > like that. Those critics aren't talking about OUR company."
> > >
> > > The only way I can think of to succeed in getting someone out of an
> > > MLM is to create doubt in their minds by ASKING QUESTIONS. You
> > cannot
> > > tell people that they are wrong, but they can come to that
> > conclusion
> > > on their own by discovering the information for themselves.
> > >
> > > So asking questions that begin with "I don't understand..
> > > you explain..." might be the best path to take. Make THEM do the
> > > research in order to answer your questions. Then if the answers
> > sound
> > > scripted (which they probably will), you can question the answers
> > and
> > > make them look into it even deeper.
> > >
> > > You'll need to be on your toes, and you'll need to learn as much as
> > > you can stomach. It is not easy, and I would not plan for a good
> > > outcome, at least not right away.
> > >
> > > We're here to assist with this process, so you are entirely welcome
> > to
> > > bring any questions you have to us. Remember, we have nothing to
> > gain
> > > by telling you what we know. Arbonne leaders (and leaders of other
> > > MLMs) hve much to gain by trying to mislead you and discredit us.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best of Luck to you.
> > >
> > >
> > > PW
> > >
> >
>
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