Wow! Thank you Hal.
Francie
Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigita
I'm skipping the other replies, since this one is formatted the way
Francie wanted to format it and contains essentially the same
information. While I will be responding privately, I did want to say
that I am impressed that she rose to a challenge and supported what she
was saying, instead of just changing the topic or bringing up some
other non-sequitor.
Hal
On Sunday 08 April 2007 02:16, Francie Smart wrote:
> Hal, I think I figured out how to get what I want to repsond to up
> without the other stuff.
>
> so, you said:
>
> Perhaps if you provide proof of your claims. I know you said to
> search http://www.pubmed.
>
>
> Hal, I want to reiterate what I said a post ago and that is that you
> need to search the BOTANICAL NAME for goji, which is in my original
> post and it is LYCIUM BARBARUM. The link below should get you there.
>
> http://www.ncbi.
>
> then you said:
> but there is also skepticism over the berries and their effect in the
> first place. . I did. I searched for the word "goji". There were
> 58 hits. At first I thought maybe there was support, but then I
> started scanning the one line summary of each article and saw nothing
> to do with berries or that was on topic. Then I started clicking on
> the links and searching. I have to admit I gave up before getting to
> the 2nd page, but in all the articles I found, the phrase "goji" was
> in them because it was the first or last name of one of the authors
>
> So, Hal, maybe the misundestanding came from you missing the
> botanical name of the goji berry. I did do my research. I am not in
> the habit of making unfounded statements which it seems is the
> inferance from your statement.
>
> Then you said:
> Did you check the content of the articles when you said (in your
> previous post) that there were 67 articles there on goji berries
> alone, or did you just search for "goji" and figure all the hits were
> what you wanted? And for those still thinking there must be a
> communication problem here, let me be clear: I got 58 hits on the
> phrase "goji" and checked most of the ones on the first page. They
> were not about any kind of berries, but they matched because an
> author's name contained the phrase "goji."
>
> So, Hall for all those wondering where the communication problem IS
> coming from, let me be clear as well: You didn't read the
> information in my post properly or completely on the search criteria
> used to obtain the information. Am I wrong? Well, yes I was wrong
> about the number of scientific studies listed - there are 83 --
> Remember the key - LYCIUM BARBARUM.
>
> Francie
>
> PS:
>
> Below is the cut and paste from the first page supplied by the
> correct search:
>
> All: 83 Review: 1
>
>
> Items 1 - 20 of 83 of 5 Next
>
>
> 1: Gu S, Wang PL, Jiang R. Related Articles, Links
> [A study on the preventive effect of Lycium barbarum polysaccharide
> on the development of alcoholic fatty liver in rats and its possible
> mechanisms.]
> Zhonghua Gan Zang Bing Za Zhi. 2007 Mar;15(3):204-
> PMID: 17407712 [PubMed - in process]
> 2: Li L, Liu F, Qian C, Jiang S, Zhou Z, Pan C. Related Articles,
> Links
> Determination of organophosphorus pesticides in Lycium barbarum by
> gas chromatography with flame photometric detection.
> J AOAC Int. 2007 Jan-Feb;90(1)
> PMID: 17373460 [PubMed - in process]
> 3: Zhu J, Zhao LH, Zhao XP, Chen Z. Related Articles, Links
> Lycium barbarum polysaccharides regulate phenotypic and functional
> maturation of murine dendritic cells.
> Cell Biol Int. 2006 Dec 30; [Epub ahead of print]
> PMID: 17289406 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
> 4: Li XM, Ma YL, Liu XJ. Related Articles, Links
> Effect of the Lycium barbarum polysaccharides on age-related
> oxidative stress in aged mice.
> J Ethnopharmacol. 2006 Dec 28; [Epub ahead of print]
> PMID: 17224253 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
> 5: Li XM. Related Articles, Links
> Protective effect of Lycium barbarum polysaccharides on
> streptozotocin-
> Int J Biol Macromol. 2007 Apr 10;40(5):461-
> PMID: 17166579 [PubMed - in process]
> 6: Tian M, Wang M. Related Articles, Links
> [Studies on extraction, isolation and composition of Lycium barbarum
> polysaccharides]
> Zhongguo Zhong Yao Za Zhi. 2006 Oct;31(19):1603-
> PMID: 17165585 [PubMed - in process]
> 7: Ye F, Yan X, Xu J, Chen H. Related Articles, Links
> Determination of aldoses and ketoses by GC-MS using differential
> derivatisation.
> Phytochem Anal. 2006 Nov;17(6):379-
> PMID: 17144244 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 8: Chan HC, Chang RC, Koon-Ching Ip A, Chiu K, Yuen WH, Zee SY, So
> KF. Related Articles, Links
> Neuroprotective effects of Lycium barbarum Lynn on protecting
> retinal ganglion cells in an ocular hypertension model of glaucoma.
> Exp Neurol. 2007 Jan;203(1):269-
> PMID: 17045262 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 9: Adams M, Wiedenmann M, Tittel G, Bauer R. Related Articles,
> Links
> HPLC-MS trace analysis of atropine in Lycium barbarum berries.
> Phytochem Anal. 2006 Sep;17(5):279-
> PMID: 17019928 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 10: Xu Q, Wang XQ, Tian HQ. Related Articles, Links
> [The features of distribution of polysaccharide and lipid in the
> developing anther of Lycium barbarum L]
> Fen Zi Xi Bao Sheng Wu Xue Bao. 2006 Apr;39(2):103-
> PMID: 16944580 [PubMed - in process]
> 11: Chao JC, Chiang SW, Wang CC, Tsai YH, Wu MS. Related Articles,
> Links
> Hot water-extracted Lycium barbarum and Rehmannia glutinosa inhibit
> proliferation and induce apoptosis of hepatocellular carcinoma cells.
> World J Gastroenterol. 2006 Jul 28;12(28):4478-
> PMID: 16874858 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 12: Benzie IF, Chung WY, Wang J, Richelle M, Bucheli P. Related
> Articles, Links
> Enhanced bioavailability of zeaxanthin in a milk-based formulation
> of wolfberry (Gou Qi Zi; Fructus barbarum L.).
> Br J Nutr. 2006 Jul;96(1):154-
> PMID: 16870004 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 13: Yu MS, Ho YS, So KF, Yuen WH, Chang RC. Related Articles, Links
> Cytoprotective effects of Lycium barbarum against reducing stress on
> endoplasmic reticulum.
> Int J Mol Med. 2006 Jun;17(6):1157-
> PMID: 16685430 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 14: Wu H, Guo H, Zhao R. Related Articles, Links
> Effect of Lycium barbarum polysaccharide on the improvement of
> antioxidant ability and DNA damage in NIDDM rats.
> Yakugaku Zasshi. 2006 May;126(5):365-
> PMID: 16679745 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 15: Hu Z, Wang YX, Wu YR, Li W. Related Articles, Links
> [Effects of light and plant growth regulators on growth of normal
> and hairy root of Lycium barbarum in vitro]
> Zhongguo Zhong Yao Za Zhi. 2006 Jan;31(2):106-
> PMID: 16570792 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 16: Luo Q, Li Z, Huang X, Yan J, Zhang S, Cai YZ. Related Articles,
> Links
> Lycium barbarum polysaccharides: Protective effects against heat-
> induced damage of rat testes and H2O2-induced DNA damage in mouse
> testicular cells and beneficial effect on sexual behavior and
> reproductive function of hemicastrated rats.
> Life Sci. 2006 Jul 10;79(7):613-
> PMID: 16563441 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 17: Zhao R, Li Q, Xiao B. Related Articles, Links
> Effect of Lycium barbarum polysaccharide on the improvement of
> insulin resistance in NIDDM rats.
> Yakugaku Zasshi. 2005 Dec;125(12):
> PMID: 16327243 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 18: Lu H. Related Articles
> [Resolution of carotenoid isomers in Lycium barbarum L. by heuristic
> evolving latent projection]
> Se Pu. 2005 Jul;23(4):415-
> PMID: 16250456 [PubMed - in process]
> 19: He YL, Ying Y, Xu YL, Su JF, Luo H, Wang HF. Related Articles,
> Links
> [Effects of Lycium barbarum polysaccharide on tumor microenvironment
> T-lymphocyte subsets and dendritic cells in H22-bearing mice]
> Zhong Xi Yi Jie He Xue Bao. 2005 Sep;3(5):374-
> PMID: 16159572 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> 20: Yu MS, Leung SK, Lai SW, Che CM, Zee SY, So KF, Yuen WH, Chang
> RC. Related Articles, Links
> Neuroprotective effects of anti-aging oriental medicine Lycium
> barbarum against beta-amyloid peptide neurotoxicity.
> Exp Gerontol. 2005 Aug-Sep;40(8-
> PMID: 16139464 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
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