James -
I am going to respond to parts of your post in pieces. That is not
intended to be argumentative, just to offer a quick response that,
maybe , could be helpful. My post is long enough as it is:
> My name is James and I had a very
> good reason for asking my question.
There is no way for us to know your intentions before you state them,
unless you have been here and active for a while. You have now made
your intentions known, but you cannot fault anyone for being unable to
read your mind. As you accurately pointed out, there have been
pro-MLMers who thought they could come into this group asking "What do
you know about such-and-such-
trolling the group for prospects. It has happened many times, and
continues to happen. If our members seem overly-cautious, you should
understand why.
> I had already looked online about
> Limu, but found only the MLM sites
> with everyone praising "Original Limu".
Did you try adding words like "complaint" or "scam" to your search?
If you enter just the name of the product, that's all your search will
yield.
But more than that, if all you found were MLM sites that praised the
product, wouldn't that, in itself, be a red flag to you? MLMs have a
vested interest in promoting the usefulness of their products and
heightening the credibility of their testimonials. Even if one MLM
says their products are better than those of another MLM, they will
seldom discount the validity of the other MLM's testimonials. At
worst, they'll say, "Well, it worked for them, but it probably won't
work for everyone."
You have already surmised that you cannot get valid information on a
product from the MLMs that manufacture and sell them.
But my main point here is that IF you cannot get valid information on
a particular product from the MLM and there is little or no
information anywhere else, WHY ON EARTH would you continue to pursue
it? Don't you think that a valid curative product would be WORTH A
MINT on the open market? The OPEN market?
I'll get into this a little more below.
> First was the fact that someone else claiming to be a Christian
> had invited me, so I trusted them.
You probably won't make that mistake again. What a person claims to
be, even if that claim has to do with faith, doesn't mean they are
incapable of promoting a scam, even unwittingly.
> The second reason was that I was
> desperate to fine income I could
> make working from home to pay my
> wife's huge medical bills.
You are not alone in this. However, desperation causes mistakes. A
methodical search is obviously the better way to go. It is plain that
you know that now, but there is still a bit of desperation in your
post, I while I do not blame you for your feelings, you seem to want
to dismiss validity for miracles. If I was in your shoes, I would be
wishing for a miracle, too. But I wouldn't throw everything else away
in search of one.
> The third was to help others in
> my situation.
This is a common motivation for getting started in MLM. Most people
have some level of altruism, whether it's for everyone or just your
own family. When we joined Amway, that was one of the pitches they
used to hook us.
> Since 1990 I have been praying for my
> wife's healing and looking for a place
> to find something to help her. The
> doctors do nothing except take our
> money and write prescriptions, mostly
> for junk that does not help.
From what I have gleaned from my wife (a physician), most medicines do
not cure. The best they can do is reduce symptoms. If your doctors
are claiming to be "curing" your wife's condition and have not fully
described her prognosis, I'd be searching for different doctors.
Let me be completely clear: There ARE GOOD doctors. The good ones
are knowledgeable about current treatments and honest about what can
actually be done for a person's situation.
I don't know how much you've done in 17 years with regard to checking
the veracity of your doctor's statements or finding multiple opinions.
But there are too many good doctors and researchers out there for a
true "miracle cure" to fly under the radar and end up being sold
solely through MLM or direct marketing.
Again, in the interest of being clear: There are doctors who only got
into medicine for the lifestyle, and there are doctors who have gotten
lazy over the years and are not as "on the ball" as your wife's
situation might require. But that does not condemn all doctors, and
it doesn't indicate a conspiracy to hide valid remedies.
Finally...
There may be no miracle cure for your wife. That is an extremely hard
reality. I know nothing of your wife's condition and have no business
knowing. But I do know that the combination of a serious, chronic
medical condition coupled with desperation often results in an
undesired outcome.
> If you had watched you spouse suffer
> for the last 17 years as I have, I
> am sure you would be asking everyone
> every question you could to help them.
And I would be careful to explain my motivations for asking.
> When I was 8 my father got MS and
> suffered terribly and died by the
> time I was 12. I watched my mom do
> everything possible for 4 years to
> find a cure or something to help.
As you know, there is no cure for MS. All doctors can do is help
alleviate the symptoms and provide the means for ongoing therapy. In
the end, that is all your mother could do.
There is no miracle product, no pill to pop, that will make pain and
suffering disappear. And while our society is big on blaming doctors
and insurance companies and the like (or just anybody, sometimes, if
it will serve a lawsuit), the truth is that there IS no one to blame.
These things simply are as they are. (And God knows there's plenty
of criticism to be placed on the medical community for things over
which they CAN exert some control!)
At the risk of lecturing, I offer this:
You have stated your adherence to the Christian faith. Christian or
not, at some point, you must turn within to find your own answers and
your own strength. The outcome may not be the one you want. But by
finding your strength, you will find something in this experience that
is valuable. You can accept the outcome, no matter what it is, and
help your wife as she copes with her malady. You cannot so attach
yourself to a particular result that you ruin whatever good may be
left in your life, and your wife's life.
Continue your search. Now that you have explained what is going on
for us, hopefully someone will come up with some good information for
you about Limu. I suspect that it will not be what you seek, if only
because it appears to be marketed through MLM.
> On June 10, 2007 we will celebrate
> our 30th wedding anniversary and I
> hope to celebrate 30+ more years
> with her and will do anything I can,
> short of offending God, to help her.
I imagine that "happy" anniversaries are difficult to come by for you.
In any case, you have my prayers and a wish that your anniversaries
will be, if not happy, then at least blessed.
All the best to you.
PW
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