I read my previous mail again and it does look like I implied that
MLM people cannot do math. I apologize for that - my intent was to
say that the scam was obvious to me. My reason to post that was a) to
vent a bit and b) A faint hope that I would get a bright idea from
someone that has been through this kind of thing.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
>
> In a message dated 8/2/2007 3:52:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> paine_wwweb_
>
> Until you understand what causes a person to get involved in an
MLM,
> you'll never have much of an effect on anyone who is involved
>
>
> think I read somewhere that a key to successful recruitment is
that the
> victim is unaware that they are being manipulated and that they
think they are
> doing something else, i.e., doing something good for humanity and
themselves.
>
> That's exactly what happened to the person who recruited me. The
math does
> not even matter to her. She is a therapist and I held her in high
regard, so
> when she said. "I'm was a systems person and the TEAM was founded
by systems
> engineers I've listened to lots of CD's and as hard as I try I
can't find
> anything wrong with them." I thought when I listened to the CD "S
it would
> finally make sense. I was shocked, they were so manipulative and
with such flawed
> logic. When I pointed out some discrepancies, "C" looked puzzled
and said, I
> don't know what you are listening to. All I hear is mom's staying
home with
> their kids, people getting out of debt and living their dreams. We
are people
> helping one another and building community, so what if I pay more
for products
> I'm helping the TEAM and I; ll get it all back anyway. She was so
hooked she
> didn't even hear anything that didn't match what she believed
about the
> business.
>
> We had been in the process of planning e some workshops together
and she
> wrote me quite a lengthy email She now questioned our
compatibility, because I
> appeared to be a needy person who could not make my own decisions.
And she did
> not want to work with someone she had to manage to make sure that
I was
> doing what was best for me. That my energy and lack of clarity
would have a
> negative impact on the gorup.and I needed too many details and
that would make
> more stress for her as she is one who can trust her own feelings,
blah blah blah.
>
> I gracefully bowed out of our workshop thing (they were planned
long before
> her Quixtar involvement and we were compatible then) and she sent
me a check
> for the products, saying she did not want the products back, she'd
agreed to
> buy the XS stuff when I joined.
>
> Thanks for listening thus far. I later find out by accident, that I
could
> get a refund for my registration and I returned the products to
Quixtar. I will
> be mailing her the money back minus the postage for the tools that
were left
> at my house.
>
> The following is what I planned on sending her with the check. I
have been
> debating over a final sentence or 2. I know she is now of the mind
that if one
> does not support; the business" she has no use for them in her
life. However,
> are there any suggestions for the final lines that might that
might stick
> with her and give her a permission to doubt when she starts to
realize that
> she is doing something different from she thinks she is.
> .
> Or should I just drop it and hope that she sees the light before
she does
> major damage to her therapy practice, relationships and finances.
Thanks for
> any suggestions.
>
> Dear C,
>
>
> I've resigned from Quixtar and the Team and my money has been
refunded. I
> have returned the products for a refund so I am returning your
payment for the
> products minus the postage for the "tools"
>
> Everything is refundable in the first 180 days, found that out by
accident.
> Another example of withholds and distortion by "the business."
Lack of full
> disclosure makes it difficult for folks to make clear well thought
out
> decisions.
>
>
> ????????????
>
>
> Diana
>
>
>
>
> ************
new AOL at
> http://discover.
>
>
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>
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