Wednesday, August 8, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Still shocked!

I'm reading Merchants of Deception. A lot of the questions I have
asked are being answered. What an interesting world...

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, momluvseliana <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> "I believe most people join first because they really do want a
> better
> life, and they want to be around people who appreciate them, but
also
> because they want to be better than others."
>
> I never once thought that people would join MLM's because they were
> stupid. I do believe that people join because they want a better
> life. So yes, anyone could be a victim. I agree with you when you
> say that "they want to be better than others." I know not everyone
> is like that, but the people that my husband and I have encountered
> who are involved in MLM seem to want to be better than others. I
> know my MLM cousin is struggling in the "real" world, her
> husband "hopefully" is still working his 9-5. I don't think she
> joined her MLM to make a "little" bit of extra money. I think they
> are searching for gold. I know they are being defensive because
> they know in their hearts that they will prove me wrong. We all
> hope they do right?
> I have never been one to want to be better than others. There are
> a lot of people out there that do. I find it really offensive
> though when MLM people have to bring up that "we are slaves to our
> bosses," or have "no freedom." blah blah blah. Does anyone else
> find that really really offensive? They are basically saying I
went
> to college and decided to get educated so that I can be a "slave?"
> I dont think so. I think my cousin is a freakin lazy ass. I am a
> mom also, but I know how to balance family time and money makin
> time. I don't care if you think i'm stupid for working just to
send
> my child to daycare (because right now that is what I am doing
while
> work is slow.) My dauhter is getting socialization and an early
> education as far as I am concerned so it is well worth it.
> Geez, I am pretty sure my husband would like to stop being
a "slave"
> for our country. (Navy) So why not sell some arbonne, usana, pre-
> peid legal, zija? Ugh, MLM's are annoying!
>
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> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "Heidi Bolong"
> <bolongs@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, momluvseliana <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > So why do MLM'rs have as much "faith" in their MLM as they do
> with
> > > Jesus, Allah, Buddah, etc? Looking through youtube comments is
> > > hilarious and weird, because all they can say to the "skeptics"
> is
> > > that they are "so negative," or "your a slave to your boss at
> your
> > > day job, and I am free." How many times have we heard those
line
> > > before? Is it really Brainwashing? That is some sick and
> twisted
> > > stuff, evil as some would put it. Faith is strong. I don't
> think
> > > anyone could convince me that Jesus is a scam. But why must
> people
> > > have faith in something so shallow, such as a business
> opportunity.
> > > They are willing to turn their backs on friends and family
> because
> > > someone said so. Why don't they investigate all sides of the
> story?
> > > Yes, your products may be great, and the company may be doing
> good
> > > things, but what aren't they telling you? Why aren't the
> smartest
> > > people in these MLM's not suspect, when people like us try to
> tell
> > > them that they should research the pro's and of course cons of
> > > MLM's. It is too easy to simply call someone "negative" that
> is
> > > lame. Why do they think calling someone negative, gives them
> the
> > > last word?
> > > So I have learned that there is no arguing with faith. These
> people
> > > have faith in their MLM, therefore you cannot win the debate.
> All
> > > hope is lost for the quest to do good. Thanks for listening to
> the
> > > rambling, for I am still baffled by this all.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think it's faith so much as fear. As was mentioned in the
> > "Rambling" thread, people don't join MLMs out of rationality,
> either.
> > I believe most people join first because they really do want a
> better
> > life, and they want to be around people who appreciate them, but
> also
> > because they want to be better than others. They envision
> themselves
> > up on stage being adored and idolized. AmQuix folks call it
> > "edifying" their upline. The word actually means teaching, as in
> > "teaching" their upline, but I'm sure what they really mean
> is "deifying".
> >
> > I think many people who join MLMs also relish the abuse heaped on
> the
> > rest of the world in which they weren't happy; it wasn't their
> fault
> > they hated their jobs or were unsuccessful, it's that the rest of
> the
> > world has got it wrong. "Here's my chance to prove to my
> > parents/spouse/coworkers that I am better than everyone else.
When
> > I'm earning the big bucks in a few months, I'll be magnanimous and
> > show them the opportunity, too."
> >
> > Then, when things don't work out right away, as promised, they're
> led
> > to believe it was their own fault. "If you don't like your
income,
> > look in the mirror." "OMG, am I really not as good as the people
> up
> > on stage?" Time for another rally, where they're told they just
> have
> > to work hard and believe in themselves and do exactly as they're
> told
> > and they can do it too.
> >
> > So I think it's narcissism and inferiority complexes (both
present
> in
> > varying degrees in most of the population, myself included) that
> > compel most people to join and stick with MLMs. The corollary
> would
> > be that the only way to get a loved one out of an MLM is to give
> them
> > more positive strokes and adulation than they would get from their
> > "team". Difficult to do in most normal human relationships,
> > especially one damaged by an MLM.
> >
> > Just my opinion.
> >
> > Heidi
> >
>

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