Thank you, Hal.
Jenna
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>
> First, I have no intention of becoming a musician (even though I'm
> teaching myself the saxophone), but, more importantly, I spent years
> teaching. Most of that time was working with people with learning
> disabilities. That meant I had to learn how people learn.
>
> Second, Jenna is going through a tough time. She is watching her son
> spend all of his income on this system. She knows that over 99.9% of
> all the people who try this system fail and that something like 95% of
> the people that try this go into debt and find later that they wasted
> their time in the system. A lot of people who go into Amway lose tens
> of thousands of dollars. On this board we have seen many people deal
> with losing thousands of dollars in such systems.
>
> As a Mother and as any kind of human being, she is going through a
tough
> time and knows that her son is likely to lose large amounts of money.
> While this is going on, he is not going to college or taking advantage
> of anything else that would lead to success. And, again, remember that
> over 99.9% of people in Quackstar will fail and over 95% lose money.
> You have a better chance of getting rich if you go to Las Vegas and
> gamble.
>
> This woman has a tough situation on her hands and you just write in and
> tell her that the one thing she is worried about, and has every reason
> to worry about (because most people in that group fail) is good and
> okay.
>
> Are you really that insensitive? Have you always been that
insensitive,
> or did you learn to be such a jerk from your upline? Did you have to
> take lessons to be that cold hearted to someone? Is that what your CDs
> and conventions and books and business tools have taught you? Is that
> the kind of person that you want to be and is that the behavior that
> you have learned is successful?
>
> I'm glad Jenna has others around who will let her know she's the one
> that is dealing with a hard time here and that you, Mr. Academy Team
> 21, are way out of line.
>
> Yes, I'm being quite rough on you. I don't deny that. It seems a
> lighter approach doesn't get through to you.
>
> Third, and to your point: Listening to 200-300 CDs does NOT make one a
> success. People don't learn that way. It makes them able to parrot
> what they've heard. It does not teach them how to think or reason.
> I'm doing quite well, as I've told you before, so I know how to start
> and run a successful business. Succeeding in business is not about
> being a parrot who can repeat what one has been told. You've been
> taught that because your upline wants you to do nothing but buy CDs, go
> to conventions, and do what they say. They make money on the tools and
> conventions, so they tell you to keep buying more.
>
> They've got you programmed well. You listen to what they say and don't
> doubt a thing. You're so focused on getting rich that nothing else
> matters and you'll jump through whatever hoops, no matter how
> humiliating it is, just to do what they tell you because you think you
> have a chance of being successful. Do you even know or remember that
> the chances of you failing and losing a fair amount of money is more
> than 99.9%? Over 95% of all people in Quackstar/Scamway lose money and
> most have to drop out because of how much they lose. You say your
> upslime is helping people. How helpful is it if you run a system where
> more than 1 in 20 people that try go into debt instead of making money?
>
> I've already said this on the list and in another response: Contacting
> us privately as you have is not appropriate. You should be aware that
> if you continue contacting us privately, we will just forward posts to
> the list and respond there, if we respond at all.
>
> Hal
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