I was always stunned by TEAM's insistance they they are NOT Amway, and
only "use" Quixtar as their internet portal or some silly thing like
that..... in this day and age, the TRUTH (that they were nothing more
than Amway Distributors) is readily available - and starts the new
person out by telling overt lies.
At least SOME of the other AMOs make the lies harder to dig up ;-)
Deb
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<margiejames@
>
>
>
>
>
> I am too Deb,
>
> Even though I have hated Amway for a long time for turning my
friend into
> a mindless robot, I believe that at least they are trying to clean
things
> up...they are not pulling any punches in this fight and they are
airing out
> the dirty laundry in public for all to see. I can't wait to hear
what my
> girlfriend says when she reads that Woodward believes that
Quixtar...(the
> most wonderful opportunity in the whole wide world)...when she reads
that he
> says that what he's been selling all these years is a pyramid
scheme...HA,
> Ha - Do these people even realize what they are saying???
>
>
>
> They are admitting that they knew it was a pyramid, they warned the
> company for years that is was a pyramid, but they continued to build
> businesses on what they knew to be "WRONG" (a pyramid scheme) they are
> admitting they knowingly scammed people.... how can they claim such
honest
> values when they just admitted they were scamming people themselves.
I hope
> that she will be able to see through this and break through from
some of her
> mind numbing programing she has sucomb to.
>
>
>
> I have been waiting for this day for years....all that I have tried to
> tell her is now coming from Woodward's or the Company's own mouth.
It was
> always been...TEAM is not like those other LOS...we are better, we are
> honest, we blah, blah, blah...well now she can't hide from it any
longer.
>
>
>
> From: mlmsurvivorsclub@
> [mailto:mlmsurvivorsclub@
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:28 PM
> To: mlmsurvivorsclub@
> Subject: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Team Response to Alticor and
Alticor HITS
> Back!!!
>
>
>
> Yup!!! Fun, huh???? :-) The mud is slinging BOTH ways at the moment.
> Right now, the big winner is going to be the phone companies -
> because you KNOW everyone's talking to their
> downlines/uplines/
>
> It's kind of "Ada Armageddon" - and in THIS case, I'm hoping Amway wins.
>
> Deb
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> <mailto:mlmsurvivor
> wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> > This is like Christmas, I can't tell you how great this is to see
> > finally Woodward being shown for the scandral he is and Alticor is
> > doing the name calling.....
> >
> > READ TEAM'S RESPONSE BELOW ------------
> >
> > From http://team_
> >
> > Orrin Woodward Resigns from Quixtar!
> > Team,
> >
> >
> > Today, August 9th, 2007, eight current members of the IBOAI board
> > from North America, representing a combined average experience of
> > twenty seven years in the business, approached Quixtar/Alticor to
> > express deep concern with the current condition of the Quixtar
> > business. For years, we've all been concerned that Quixtar's products
> > have been hopelessly overpriced and were virtually not retailable.
> > Quixtar has known this, too, because over the last few years we have
> > repeatedly informed them of this fact and have literally begged them
> > to correct the problem. They did nothing, which is not particularly
> > surprising given the ridiculously high profit margins required by
> > families who own the businesses.
> >
> >
> > When we realized that our pleas had no hope of succeeding, we decided
> > the cover-up needed to stop. Consistent with the principles of
> > promoting fair competition and with commitment to the free enterprise
> > system, we expressed our opinion that it would be only fair for
> > Quixtar/Alticor to roll back its non-competition and non-solicitation
> > rules and give all IBOs a choice to continue their participation in
> > the business. Our position is simple: People should have a choice
> > about whether to stay with Quixtar/Amway or leave for another
> > opportunity. In response to our request, Amway/Quixtar snickered and
> > immediately rejected our proposal.
> >
> >
> > As a result of this discussion, members of the board immediately
> > resigned. Having reached an impasse, and being unable to have further
> > discussions with Quixtar/Alticor management, we have asked the U.S.
> > District Court in Los Angeles to provide essentially the same relief
> > we asked Quixtar/Amway to voluntarily accept. Our complaint to the
> > court can be reviewed in detail by clicking on the PDF included in
> > this e-mail. This lawsuit does not seek damages or retribution. As
> > Moses said to Pharaoh, "Let our people go!"
> >
> > Download Complaint.pdf
> >
> >
> > Robert L. Dickie III
> >
> > Team
> >
> > Chief Executive Officer
> >
> >
> > The complaints lists the following plaintiffs -
> >
> > Orrin Woodward, Billy Florence, Don Wilson, Fred Harteis, Tim Marks,
> > Chuck Cullen, Kirk Birtles, Randy Haugen, Chris Brady, Jim Martin,
> > Aron Radosa, Chuck Goetschel, David Brandy, Benjamin L. Dickie, Bruce
> > Gilbank, Mike Martensen
> >
> > It essentially claims that Quixtar products are too highly priced to
> > be retailable and seeks relief for plaintiffs to pursue other
> > opportunities.
> >
> >
> >
> > NOW READ ALTICOR'S RESPONSE TO TEAM WHICH THEY POSTED ON THEIR OWN
> > AMWAY MEDIA BLOG FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE!!!!!! SO COOL!!!!
> > NO HOLDING BACK ALTICOR - YOU GO!
> >
> > August 10th, 2007...
> > Just go, Team
> > You can post a comment or trackback from your own site.
> >
> > We terminated Orrin Woodward yesterday, along with several other
> > leaders of his field organization, named Team. We'll post our formal
> > statement when it's ready. Informally, here's the story:
> >
> > We terminated Orrin Woodward for philosophical reasons. We did it for
> > legal reasons.
> >
> > But the main reason we did it is because the way Orrin Woodward ran
> > his organization was a disgrace to every person who's ever tried to
> > build a Quixtar or Amway business the right way.
> >
> > We have fought to clean up the reputation of our company for years.
> > We know that one of the biggest challenges our reputation faces is
> > misrepresentation of the Quixtar and Amway businesses to others.
> >
> > And over the last several months, it became clear to us that Orrin
> > Woodward was a poster child for a long list of bad business practices
> > that our critics hate about our company. The other leaders we
> > terminated - including Chris Brady, Billy Florence, Don Wilson, Randy
> > Haugen, Tim Marks and Chuck Goetschel - also showed they were
> > unwilling to reform.
> >
> > Not telling people they were signing up with Quixtar? Woodward would
> > hide that fact from new Independent Business Owners as long as he
> > could.
> >
> > Making people think it was easy money? Same deal.
> >
> > Telling people that Quixtar was merely a "supplier," and not the
> > company they were signing a contract with? Yup.
> >
> > We'd told Woodward we had problems with the way he ran his business
> > for years, and we worked methodically to bring those problems to
> > resolution. We got ignored, we got lied to, and, boy, we got the
> > runaround.
> >
> > So in the end, yesterday, we tried to give him one last chance to
> > reform.
> >
> > He didn't even want to hear his options. So we terminated him. And in
> > return, he handed us a trumped-up, trash-talking lawsuit on his way
> > out the door. In response, we have a temporary restraining order
> > issued by a court that prevents him from looting the business as he
> > seeks to take his act to a new company.
> >
> > So he's gone, and so are others. We are doing our best to repair the
> > relationships Orrin Woodward damaged and protect the businesses of
> > the people in his organization that Orrin Woodward betrayed. And we
> > will continue building our business with thousands of people who know
> > how to build it the right way.
> >
> > We would say we were sorry to see Orrin Woodward go. But only if that
> > were true.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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