Tuesday, April 1, 2008

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Quixtar/Worldwide Group

First time post for me. I hope I'm doing this right.

My first involvement in MLM was with Amway. I was in college, and my
upline was my Mom. I thought, at the time, "If I'm not successful in
college, at least I have Amway."

I soon realized that Amway was not the path for me. And soon enough
your son will also. While undergrad work is, at times, boring and
unfruitful, I would think that one question will help him see the
light.

Ask him if he is making a 30% return on his money. It's a simple
question and the one that most successful business owners know by
heart. If you're not making 30%, then you are not in a successful
business venture.

I was once part of Nexgen. They went out of business because, from
what I hear, their sole monetary income was from new recruits. Ask
him how he makes money. And tell him that a true business venture
makes money immediately. Otherwise your expenses far exceed your
profit, and you lose in the end.

Don't, however, stifle his entrepreneurship. It is a gift. Just let
him know that he needs to focus his energies on profit. If he spends
600 bucks, he might as well buy a jet ski (or something else) that
he can sell for 900 bucks within the week. That's a business.

Let him mature to a true businessman. It could reap rewards in the
long run. For now, show him how much he has lost, and then show him
a better way.

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "jennasknnr" <js1522@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "leslie_smith_79"
> <leslie_smith_79@> wrote:
> Leslie,
>
> Thanks so much for your response. Since that post, Matt has moved
out
> and is living on his own. He is working in retail, for a company
that
> has filed bankruptcy and is trying to find another job. Without a
> college education, he is finding it difficult. He is still
involved
> up to his eyebrows in Quixtar, oh I mean Amway, and will not
listen to
> anything that I have to say. I just have to "Let go, Let God".
>
> Jenna
>
>
> >
> > I'm so sorry. I am 28 now and had an experience similar to your
son.
> > I didn't drop out of college; however I only stayed in because
of
> > family and peer pressure to "have a college degree." I felt
college
> > was a complete waste of time. I felt disconnected from my
fellow
> > students. I was going somewhere with my life and everyone else
was
> > going to be stuck with a dead-end job. I pitied them and
avoided the
> > parties and read my Quixtar-recommended books instead. At the
business
> > meetings your son is told that his professors are well-
intentioned
> > buffoons, that nothing he studies is applicable to the real
world and
> > that college is a huge waste of time. He will asked if his
professors
> > all drive sports cars and live in mansions. When he replies
that not
> > all of his professors do these things, your son's upline will
ask him
> > why he is wasting his time learning from such unsuccessful
people.
> >
> > I would encourage you to have your son do his own independent
research
> > on Quixtar. If he is going to business meetings ("functions")
then he
> > will be somewhat indoctrinated into the system and so it will be
best
> > for him to take baby steps. If you can get him to skip a
couple
> > of "functions" and then suggest that he do research it will
help. I
> > believe that if I had not started skipping any functions I may
have
> > never seen the light.
> >
> > The best advice I can give is for you to show him that you love
and
> > support him no matter what his decisions are. When he does come
to
> > realize the lies he has been told and the untold negative effect
the
> > business has had on his life, he is likely to feel betrayed,
> > incompetent and wiill feel as if he cannot make even simple
decisions
> > on his own. I have been out of Quixtar for two years and am
just now
> > starting to feel as if I once again have full control of my own
life.
> >
> > Good luck! Hang in there. You are not the first people in this
> > position and there is hope.
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "jennasknnr"
<jennasknnr@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 20 year old son involved in this scam. He is easily
led and
> > > has spent the last two years throwing money down the drain and
> > > destroying all of his family and personal relationships over
this
> > > "business". He wasted two years of college and now has
decided not
> > to
> > > go back because "he doesn't need to go to college to be
successful".
> > > This decision is supported by his "upline" and the rest of the
idiots
> > > that are making money off a kid. I am at my wits end. He is
totally
> > > brainwashed, we (his father, brother and I) can't get through
to him.
> > > I am heartbroken to see this great kid go down the drain
mentally,
> > > physically and financially. Any suggestions?????
> > >
> >
>

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