--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
wrote:
>
> So, he has apparently taken a vow of poverty and lives at the local
> Y? Somehow, I don't think he is hurting for income.
I am sure that he isn't. There is nothing wrong with anyone making
money from their work. Your comment is a 'red herring'.
> Seriously, tho, the parallel is clear. When I was a new and rabid
> Ambot, most of my direct upline came from my sunday school class.
> In the lessons and discussions, we often repeated the same phrases
> about showing the plan or looking for prospects when talking about
> evangelism, just without the Business specific words. We would even
> wink at eachother in small groups because we got the inside joke
> about where our "insight" came from.
That's too bad. MLM has infiltrated many churches and the bad thing is
those churches are often teaching no gospel. They teach health/wealth.
I bet if someone pointed out how Jesus threw the money changers out of
the temple they would ignore the point!
There is also a difference between sharing one's faith out of the
heart, in the power of the Holy Spirit and 'recruiting'
cult-like.
> Coupling the two concepts helped me see the inconsistencies in both
> areas and I am now happily free from both fantasy worlds.
Yes, that is your personal decision. Just don't assume that the
similarity between the two make them the same 'fantasy'. You see, my
insight comes from being in a cult and being in a few MLMs.
I suggest that you read "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis and Lee
Strobel's "Case for Faith" and "Case for Christ". Chuck Colson has a
great analogy for the faith by contrasting what he experienced in
Watergate with the proofs of the N.T., "Born Again" is the name of the
book. I wish you well!
Rex
> Price's book is a good read, tho his language gets a bit pendantic
> at times.
>
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> wrote:
> >
> > Rev. Rick Warren used to practice what we call 'reverse tithe',
> giving
> > 90% of earnings back to the ministry and keeping only 10%. He now
> > takes NO MONEY from any of the PDL work, accepts no salary as
> Pastor
> > of his church. He is the very opposite of the 'health wealth, name
> it
> > claim it' greed teachers.
> > When you whine about 'fundamentalists' remember this: to qualify
> for
> > that title you must actually believe and teach what the Bible has
> to
> > say on all things human. If that makes one an object of ridicule,
> so
> > be it!
> > Rex
> >
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> > <luthersetzer@
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I wanted to return to this group briefly after a long absence to
> share
> > > a memorable quote.
> > >
> > > Robert Price recently published THE REASON-DRIVEN LIFE, a
> chapter by
> > > chapter critique of Rick Warren's best seller THE PURPOSE-DRIVEN
> LIFE.
> > > At one point, Price says of Warren:
> > >
> > > "Here is Rick Warren, Grand Inquisitor, a man who can see the
> human
> > > race only as a vast Amway sales force for fundamentalism.
> > >
> > > People here can no doubt relate to this passage in more ways
> than one.
> > >
> > > I highly recommend Price's thought-provoking book.
> > >
> > >
> > > Luke Setzer
> > >
> >
>
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