Thursday, July 12, 2007

Re: [MLM Survivors Club] My brainwashed daughter's life is in danger

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "gardeningkelly"
<gardeningkelly@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, thank you all, I'm making a list of all the advice- It
> just SO HELPS that I don't feel like I'm the only one in the whole
> world who sees how dangerous this is and I don't feel so crazy and
> frantic anymore. She did call yesterday, we 'smoothed' things out
> for now- she started going into how I can talk to the uplines if I
> want now- but now I don't think I will, based on your advice.

Under No circumstance should you talk to her upline. He will only
try to convince you that you and your daughter are the ones at fault
and you should be supporting your son-in-law and his "business".
Also, That if you want to see your daughter and her husband happy
you need to sign up as their downline. He will tell you that this
is a family oriented business, that it's a Christian business, and
that it is pure capitalism at work. HOGWASH on ALL points! The
business is a scam and a cult. PERIOD! The upline's only goal is
to have a greatar market of downline that he can sell his tapes,
DVD's, books, and function tickets to.

Incidentally we should have added that you need to visit Rick Ross's
or steve hassan's site.

http://www.rickross.com/groups/amway.html
http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/a/amway/

These are anti-cults sites and have resources for family of friends
of amway/quixtar vitims who are in similar situation as you are.

I
> think it just antagonized them to rally the wagons around her. I
> did try talking to the husband the day before, that went so-so...
he
> was defending his mother. We will make a safety plan, and i'll
try
> and see her this weekend or next week- she seems fine on the phone
> now- I guess it's called the "honeymoon" period. When she called
I
> said we should just try to avoid talking about the business, and
she
> said 'but mom, I just want to share my successes with you'. Is
that
> normal Quixtar talk? Is that the emotional tugging or whatever?
> What do I say to that?

That is textbook quixtar and mlm talk, it even has a name it's
called tapespeak. A distributor can experience loss of their j.o.b,
be thousands of dollars in debt, have their home foreclosed,
separated or divorce from their spouse, filing bankruptcy and they
will still crow how successful they are in the business and how rich
they are or are going to be.

Every time I even think of her stupid
> business my blood boils- yes, hard to keep my mouth shut and I
know
> I have to, so I'll give it my best shot. My husband doesn't see
the
> danger in the business- that they all rally around and try to
> isolate her from us, esp when he hurt her. I just hate them. I
> think I need to stay totally away from them because I can usually
be
> civil except when something like this happens. I have to run now
> and I'll update more this weekend and I can't thank you enough for
> the support.
>

As Hal has said that's what this group is all about. Good Luck,
don't despair and we are praying for you.

Robby

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