Hal wrote:
> money for advertising. I'm not sure a free porn site would be able to
> make enough on advertising to pay for their bandwidth.
The sole function of the "free" porn sites is to induce people into
buying a membership in one or more of the non-free sites.
The commission from the membership fees provides the revenue to cover
the costs of the free site. (Most of the expense of a "free" site is
the cost of the person who designed/wrote the code for the site. ) The
cost of the "free" content that is displayed, is from using the
bandwidth of a different site.
> I don't know the demographics (other than men of all ages) in terms of what they can sell.
The "adult entertainment industry" has developed some fairly
interesting psychodemographic profiling techniques. They are just
learning how to translate that knowledge into product that sells.
The "men of all ages" demographic won't even pay for the model.
It is all about the specific niche.
(In this respect it is interesting to note that both the Playboy,and
Penthouse empires have spunoff, or closed down divisions, due to the
low/no profit that they generated. In the meantime, the "adult
entertainment" industry as a whole has shown tremendous growth,in
terms of revenue.)
> In other words, do men browsing porn sites even look at ads?
The images/movies that they offer are the adds that they get revenue
on. I"m not sure if the design is intentional or not, but the
strategy is to frustrate somebody into signing up with one of the
non-free sites, to see anything.
> Still, it seems to me a pay site would make much more and a free site would not make nearly as much, so there would be many fewer of them.
Most of the sites that claim to provide "free" "adult content" do not
provide that content. Instead,they function as modified search
engines.
> > The package he wants to get cost 60k!
> found where that particular company makes their money from!
The real joker is that if you know website design, and have a good
host, you could earn that much by directly negotiating with paid site
owners, at far less cost to you.
> Ah, so turnkey does not involve promotion. I'm not sure how porn sites are promoted, unless through other porn sites.
I doubt there isn't an online, or offline technique that hasn't be
tried a million times by the website operators And in the end, it all
comes down to two things:
* Knowing the psychodemographic for your target audience;
* Spending you money just on that specific psychodemographic;
Whilst they probably haven't achieved David Oglivey's goal, I suspect
that some of the paid site operators are close to it. (His goal was
to not waste a penny in advertising. How maxim was that "at least half
of all money spent in advertizing is wasted.")
> > To me, it seems like it would be very difficult to get you site listed to generate traffic.
>then there would be a LOT of competition, so someone would have to
work hard to distinguish themselves from other people.
If you don't know what you are doing, the industry will swallow you
up, leaving you high and dry without anything. If you do know what
you are doing, you can make a decent living. You will probably pay
your lawyer at least five times the amount you can pay yourself,
because of the legal exposure and issues that arise.
This is a ruthless, merciless, cut-throat business. There are maybe
half a dozen other industries in which the competition is as, if not
more brutal --- and not just to one's wallet.
> And here's the big point: If a business is trying to make a profit,
> would they sell him this chance if he can easily make more than the $60,000
Legal exposure:
As a website owner, the three major legal issues are:
* copyright violations;
* illegal content;
* content that violates "community standards" in some town you've
never heard of;
As a content producer, the only major legal issue is:
* "illegal content";
As a website management company, the contracts can be written so that
the the website owner assumes full legal liability for all content on
the website, regardless of whether such content was explicitly
requested by the website owner.
xan
jonathon
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