> Do I hate IBOs, no. They are hustling
> like everyone else on this god given
> earth. Do I hate the men I dealt with,
> no. If I saw them again I would be
> indifferent towards them, have no reason
> to talk to them and have no reason to
> fear them.
Good. This is better than the picture I was getting from your story.
With a thread title like "A Dance with the Devil and How I Survived"
and your tone, I was getting a different impression.
> I'm in the process of doing research, and
> in the MLM buisness, the IBOs are like low
> grade sargents. Yes they have the automny
> to make command decisions on a lower enlisted
> level but they are also part of larger team
> and command structure (Like any other business
> of bureaucracy.
> make to join and they decided to listen to $$$
> instead of reason.
I'm glad you're here with us to assist with your research.
This is partially correct, but you are also making some inaccurate
assumptions.
There is virtually NO autonomy for lower-level IBOs. And they are
only part of a "command structure" if you are looking at the pyramid
hierarchy. You are not taking into account the secret tools scam that
is the true money-maker for the top IBO leaders. There are actually
TWO hierarchies involved, here, and the one that counts is nothing
like a business bureaucracy.
Finally, you've made the assumption that IBOs are listening to $$$
instead of reason, and that is not entirely true. IBOs are given
partial information, and they do not know that there is anything else.
How do you make an informed decision on an incomplete set of facts?
You can't. There isn't room to get into this here, but suffice it to
say that most IBOs are not any more into the money aspect of MLM than
any other business owner (or employee, for that matter) is. Everyone
is told that this is a way to generate money, and in business, that is
the primary goal - making money. No one should be faulted for that.
> But I do not see being unscrupulous and
> submitting to a cult as the way to go.
Do you honestly believe that anyone in MLMs thinks they are in a cult?
Do you think it is listed in the brochure?
No one consciously submits to being in a cult. People are lured into
them. We had leaders in our organization teaching us how to answer
the accusation that it was a cult: "You mean, those organizations
where the members actually do what the leaders TELL them to do?" Most
IBOs believe that they are not doing exactly what the leaders teach,
and that's part of what keeps IBOs involved.
> Can you make money in a MLM, you probably can,
> if you as I was told "Submit completely". If
> you throw away caution, common sense, and push
> goods on anybody or anything.
I was not told "Submit completely" until well after I got involved.
> Nothing funny about my story you say?
>
> Will place yourself in my shoes, someone who
> prided himself on being a "wheeler and dealer"
> someone who was "street smart" as well as "book
> smart." Now, look at the big hit I took and how
> I was almost taken in.
> I wanted to stamp myself "Dumb Ass!"
> Now if you can't laugh at yourself...who can
> you laugh at?
That didn't seem to be what you were laughing at in your original
post. I missed it. Sorry.
You were almost taken in because you were given partial information
that was offered to you in a manipulative way. These scams have been
around for many years, and there are many people who are probably as
"street smart" as you who were taken in by it.
This is no mamby-pamby scam. This is a multi-billion-
international fraud. If it was easy to identify it for what it is, it
would have been declared illegal and shut down long ago.
So if I were you, I'd be careful about how you see yourself in
relation to all of this. Right now, you're painting yourself as
smarter than everyone who's involved, smarter than everyone who's
*ever* been involved, smarter than anyone who couldn't convince
someone to get out of it and smarter than lawmakers who cannot
legislate against it.
That's a lot of people to be "smarter than." And most of them won't
pay a lot of attention to your research if they don't like you.
But your story is valid and your inquiries are welcome. You'll learn
a ton from this group. Good to have you with us.
PW
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