Gardeningkelly-
My heart goes out to you. I read your post and from the details you
provided, my best analysis of the situation is that Quixtar is more of
a symptom than a cause. Often abusers come from controling, abusive
families themselves, which sounds like it may be the case here.
Although Quixtar is certainly not helping the situation in any way,
the physically abusive behavior and is not typical of Quixtar,
although the controlling behavior is fairly common (from my
understanding and experience, but other's may have information that I
don't). From what you said, it is likely that similar behavior by your
daughter's husband and his family would be present even if Quixtar
wasn't in the picture. However, it sounds like the messages she is
getting in Quixtar (i.e. "Don't quit" "Other's won't understand your
dreams", etc.) are having an even more devistating effect that usual
because of the abusive situation. The upline is acting in an
extremely irresponsible way by attempting to "counsel" your daughter.
An abusive relationship can be extremely difficult to leave with
Quixtar in the picture too, a terrible situation seems to have become
even more unmanageable.
I don't know where you are located (and I'm not asking you to disclose
that information!
resources specific to abused women, and other avenues of help. Some
areas also have a 24 hour emergency hotline (that may be
confidential)
would be (as far as restraining orders, orders of protection, etc).
However, since there is a child involved, if you feel that your
grandchild may be in danger, you may choose to make a CPS report.
Even if a child is not being abused, if the child is in an abusive
home a CPS report can be made. These reports can be made at any time
and are confidential. You could also try to give your daughter
numbers she could call if she wants to seek out non-Quixtar help.
I hope that something I wrote will be of some help. If there is any
more information or clarification you need regarding anything I wrote,
please let me know. Either way, I sincerely hope that we can be of
some help and comfort to you here.
-EA
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<gardeningkelly@
>
> Hi- I wrote last in May, that my daughter was being brainwashed by
> her husband's family. Thanks for the support and the information I
> received. I'm freightened to even write this, because I see I could
> have hidden my e-mail name, but I'm so frantic at this point I don't
> care. She has been married a little over a year and instantly
> became involved with Quixtar through his family, who live in Arden
> Hills, MN. They are under Mr. Smith who is under Burt Gulick. I
> have spent the past couple of months reading everything I can get
> ahold of and gathering my information and trying to be very careful
> with what I say. In the meantime, her husband began physically
> abusing her. Another instance, the husband and his sister kidnapped
> the baby (she was breastfeeding) and wouldn't tell her where the
> baby was for over 3 hours. After his, she came home and refused to
> go back until he received anger management counselilng. He
> supposedly was going, until we discovered that he had lied about
> it. The got "marriage counseling" from their "upline". (Can you
> tell how frantic I am?) There have been 3 major instances of
> physical abuse, the last one was last weekend in Missouri at the
> Quixtar Family Reunion in (Osage Beach?) Missouri. They got into a
> physical altercation and our daughter called us and asked us to come
> and get her as she said she as afraid he was going to kill her. We
> called his parents, and his mother, a long-time Amway sales
> prostitute from hell, proceeded to tell us why his violence was all
> my daughter's fault for starting the argument in the first place,
> and they would be counseled by Mr. Smith. We got into a shouting
> match on the phone, and I insisted this time that if they thought
> they were going to have their upline "counsel" them again and
> anything happened to my duaghter, I was going to sue them, Mr.
> Smith, Mr. Gulick, all the way up to that motherfucker Yager, excuse
> my language, with every cent and breath I had until my dying day.
> Well, suddenly my duaghter's visit was canceled, the son came to
> pick up the dog and wouldn't let me see my grandchild, and I got a
> phone message from my daughter that I could never see my grandchild
> again or her future children because I "teach bad (negative) things"
> and "yes, mom, family members who aren't in Quixtar get pushed away
> by us because we grow and you don't". My husband is trying to keep
> the lines of communication open to her. I fear for her life and her
> safety and my grandchild's safety. I'm so damned sick of hearing
> those Amway quips "Quitters never win!" "Leaders are
> readers!" "Stay positive!". I'm still reading the online book, I'm
> halfway through the Smoke and Mirrors book. I'm despirate, I feel
> like I'm a caged animal, I feel like I'm at the edge of a lake
> watching my child drown and someone is holding me back from swimming
> out to save her. I can't sleep, I can't eat, and I'm feeling like
> this is a nightmare I'll never wake up from. Help.
>
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