Sunday, January 6, 2008

RE: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Melalueca

the HUGE problem you have Tammy is that you see a HUGE difference between an "independent contractor" and "employee" when there is not much of difference. The problem is that there is a HUGE difference between "independent contractor" and "business owner".

Good luck with fooling yourself - when you have spent your money and wasted your time and have finally seen the truth - come on back and say hi.

Mick

Tammy with Get Remembered <getremembered@gmail.com> wrote: The HUGE problem with all of this response, (long laundry list of problems
actually) is that you are responding as if you were HIRED to be an EMPLOYEE.
That is totally wrong. No, the you are not hired. You an independent
contractor....that is the big LIE of MLM haters - that you are an employee
that is hired and therefore you deserve some kind of 'favors' as it were.

And for the record. NO, this was not a sales pitch and NO I am not talking
about training materials at all. But rather the right people to learn from
that are doing it correctly. It's a paradigm shift.

You guys are so set that this is a 'sales pitch' and that I am PRO-MLM that
you are only twisting around my words and coming to your own conclusions
that fit you way of thinking. Thanks for that. Maybe you should try asking
instead of assuming....and we all know what assuming does, right?

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From: mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sdw921@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:56 AM
To: mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Melalueca

Hal,

I 100% agree with everything you said and you did such a good job saying it
(as always). I just wanted to say that I read the beginning of this post a
little bit different than you did:

> > Answer me this:
> > What kind of business do you think you can get into that requires you
> > to do nothing, buy nothing, invest nothing, no training, and then
> > earn money?

Your take on it:

> This is the start of the sales pitch. While it's not a promise, it's an
> implied promise. It starts with saying you need nothing to start (I
> call it the Sgt. Schultz speech. "I know nothing, I see nothing...")
> It basically says anyone can do it without effort, without special
> skills, training or knowledge. Let's hang a big red flag on this and
> look at it later, okay?

My take on it is that it is, indeed, a sales pitch. But, to me it seems to
be a pitch for the training materials and seminars that all MLMs require you
to invest in. This is a very typical lead in for all of the "non-products"
they always want you to buy and an attempt to justify it. I just want to say
to this poster that every time a company has hired me to do a job that
required training, "they" paid "ME" to be trained, not the other way around.
And these pitches do deserve a big red flag!

Very good job breaking this post down, Hal.

Happy New Year!

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