MLM Survivors Club: Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Melalueca

Your response is pitiful - even by MLM standards.

First, Everytime someone says MLM is a pyramid scheme, its you "MLM lovers" that first compare MLMs to businesses that USE EMPLOYEES.
Second, explain to me what kind of company other than an MLM would REQUIRE an "independent contractor" to also buy product from the company - and every month at that!.
Third, The whole training spiel you put out about learning from "people that are doing it correctly" is so obviously MLM conditioned - there is really no need to trash it anymore on this forum.

----- Original Message ----
From: Tammy with Get Remembered <getremembered@gmail.com>
To: mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 9:18:33 AM
Subject: RE: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Melalueca

The HUGE problem with all of this response, (long laundry list of problems

actually) is that you are responding as if you were HIRED to be an EMPLOYEE.

That is totally wrong. No, the you are not hired. You an independent

contractor.. ..that is the big LIE of MLM haters - that you are an employee

that is hired and therefore you deserve some kind of 'favors' as it were.

And for the record. NO, this was not a sales pitch and NO I am not talking

about training materials at all. But rather the right people to learn from

that are doing it correctly. It's a paradigm shift.

You guys are so set that this is a 'sales pitch' and that I am PRO-MLM that

you are only twisting around my words and coming to your own conclusions

that fit you way of thinking. Thanks for that. Maybe you should try asking

instead of assuming.... and we all know what assuming does, right?

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From: mlmsurvivorsclub@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:mlmsurvivorsclub@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of sdw921@comcast. net

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:56 AM

To: mlmsurvivorsclub@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Melalueca

Hal,

I 100% agree with everything you said and you did such a good job saying it

(as always). I just wanted to say that I read the beginning of this post a

little bit different than you did:

> > Answer me this:

> > What kind of business do you think you can get into that requires you

> > to do nothing, buy nothing, invest nothing, no training, and then

> > earn money?

Your take on it:

> This is the start of the sales pitch. While it's not a promise, it's an

> implied promise. It starts with saying you need nothing to start (I

> call it the Sgt. Schultz speech. "I know nothing, I see nothing...")

> It basically says anyone can do it without effort, without special

> skills, training or knowledge. Let's hang a big red flag on this and

> look at it later, okay?

My take on it is that it is, indeed, a sales pitch. But, to me it seems to

be a pitch for the training materials and seminars that all MLMs require you

to invest in. This is a very typical lead in for all of the "non-products"

they always want you to buy and an attempt to justify it. I just want to say

to this poster that every time a company has hired me to do a job that

required training, "they" paid "ME" to be trained, not the other way around.

And these pitches do deserve a big red flag!

Very good job breaking this post down, Hal.

Happy New Year!

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