Saturday, February 16, 2008

Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Re:Ex MLM Junkie

I spent about 10 years dabbling (euphemism for bankrupting myself, literally, as I am reaching retirement age) in mlm always thinking the concept was good, just a matter of finding the "right" one. Amway, NuSkin/PhotoMax, Noni, AmeriPlan, are survivors of about 6 others, now out of business, that I tried.

My conclusions on my way to bankruptcy court:

You can only lose money in mlm.
Everyone is lying to you.
The more dedicated you are, the more it will cost you.
Bait and switch is a major modus operandi of mlm promoters.
One can only become a promoter by being willing to be a liar for the liars.
Many mlm company products are fine, but are too expensive and/or cursed with unprovable claims.
Lead sellers, seminar leaders, book writers on how to succeed in mlm, make their big money suckering people into buying their products, not via mlm downlines.
Lead systems maintained and promoted by some teams (often as "the only way you can succeed) is the secret cash cow for the leaders. Conflict of interest?
Products and services in the real marketplace survive by being cheaper, better, and readily available. mlm products and services universally fail on all 3 counts.
Any scheme that requires "religious" type of belief, trust and commitment is to be avoided like the devil. Save it for church.

How could I be so stupid? I wanted to retire without money worries.

There's more, but you get the picture.

Avoid MLM. Life is too short to waste even one day wading through the lies, enduring the fraud, trying to do what cannot be honestly done.

MLM is a liars paradise, virtually no claims or representations can be taken for face value.

MLM promoters

Paul Watkins <p_watkins72@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Martin.

Thank you for replying to my post. It is nice to be able to chat with other people who experienced MLM's and the damage they can do to people and their families.
You have asked me to elaborate on a statement that I made in my first email.

"There is no way one can succeed unless you take your diamond upline
back behind the building and ask for a cut in the tools business, or
else."

That statement was made in jest. However, sadly, if one wants to make any kind of real money in Amway, you got to get yourself in the tools business. Everybody who has been in Amway or dealt with Amway knows that there is no money to be made, unless you tap into the tools business. The statement sounds a lot like something like mob speak. Amway operates very much like the mob, only they wrap up their dealings in the American flag and God and Country bit. You would not believe what those people do, and how deep their pockets are. They are truly evil. But don't take my word for it. Read the book "Merchants Of Deception." Do a google search. I was lucky. I was lazy enough not to work the business seriously.

If I was a wiseguy, I probably would of taken my diamond upline out back and had a little chat. But I don't operate that way. There are so many good honest people that got caught up in the Amway scam, it hurts. I see the damage that has been done, I have seen lives destroyed. I will never touch any kind of MLM ever again.

I will always speak out against Amway. I will discourage people from joining. I will always warn everyone I know not to join Amway. And if they have a problem with that, so what. They come to my door, they will have hell to pay.

Hope that helps.

Regards,

P. Watkins

----- Original Message ----
From: ML Rogers <martinlomas@rogers.com>
To: mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:49:49 AM
Subject: [MLM Survivors Club] Re:Ex MLM Junkie

Hi P. Watkins,

Thanks for your story .. each experience brings new light on the subject. Can I ask you to elaborate on:

"There is no way one can succeed unless you take your diamond upline back behind the building and ask for a cut in the tools business, or else."

I think I know what you're saying, but I want to be clear, as it seems this was the realization that changed your mind.

Thanks,

Martin

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