Sunday, October 21, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: New information regarding the Winters Team

Well regarding Mark and Amy I truly believe that they WERE stealing
tool money because of the false allegations put against myself and
my ex-husband.....
this is a message posted here on October 6, of last year



All my hard work got me was a divorce

Message #44457 of 47093

i was in Quixtar with my ex husband for three years. During that
time we reached the Platinum Level (7500 pv held for six months or
more) Right before we reached this level, i noticed that our tools
were increasingly getting more and more behind on delivery and
backordered. After I questioned my upline platinum that we ordered
through; a meeting was called with my husband....I was told to stay
home the MEN were to handle this as they were the "head of the
house". When i asked what the meeting was about when he retrned
home....I was told that I needed to submit more and to let him
handle it. well......two weeks later my husband told me that our
upline strongly urged him to seek a divorce. Their reasoning was
that the upline emerald thought that his emeraldship was in danger
if the upline platinum lady was exposed of stealing tool money and
not ordering the tools that were ordered by her downline instead
only ordering a fraction and pocketing the money in order to pay
their bills and afford function tickets. you see you need three
platinum legs to maintain a emerald pin. If the third leg of his was
outed as being a theif...they would loose their team and he would
not be an emerald. losing credibility and his precious pin and
paycheck was more important than my marriage. "never embarrass your
upline" They told him if he did mot cooperate there would be an
annomous letter sent to his corporation letting them know that even
though he signed a contract stating he would have no other job or
business outside their employment he was in fact operating a
business.Mind you I took care of tools, organized and ran our open
meeting, as well as had ladies meetings and got the ladies excited
and motivated all to be cast aside for exposing the truth...these
people are not in it to help others..they are in it for themselves.
wether it is to steal your money or to steal your marriage. By the
way Four months after our divorce, my ex moved to chicago and my ex
upline convientely set him up with a struggling 300 pin. Now they
have a match made in heaven. and a strong tight lip.

Just an Update: My ex-husband left the team mentioned above and
changed to another team in the Winters organization after that
annonymous letter was sent to his employer. Yes they did send it and
told him to change teams...whatever it takes to protect the secret.
I guess. "For the greater good" they told him. All this happening
and then our upline Emeralds being removed just adds up correctly
for me. I believe they were caught stealing and Larry in order to
keep that large leg with minimal damage chose to remove them. By the
way....they sold their business for a mere 10,000 DOLLARS!! I
thought at the emerald level you were making at least 70 grand per
year? why sell so cheap? maybe the profit isn't that great after all.

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "xxfarmhandxx"
<xxfarmhandxx@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmmm….I was in an IBO under Emerald Sandy King under Diamonds
Jack
> & Effie Reid. Every now and then a direct or even an emerald
would
> mysteriously disappear from the group. Inquiry as to what had
> happened was always responded to with "hushed, secret, don't tell
> ANYBODY I told you this" from upline usually along the lines of
they
> were caught stealing, embezzling, cheating on spouses, molesting
> children or some such shocking detail and that Jack had rightfully
> banned them from the group. Years after leaving Scamway I
encountered
> some of these people and found out that they had basically figured
> out the scam and had tried to right things and were forced or
bought
> out, or just resigned.
> Kind of hard for the Diamonds to explain to the brainwashed masses
> why anybody in such coveted positions that they had obviously
worked
> extremely hard to get to would just up and quit so voilá, instant
> slander. Once the slander has been carefully disseminated through
out
> the group, the strict adherence to no crosslining or negative is
> relied on to prevent the truth from ever being discovered. I guess
> that's why anyone who ever quits is just another looser. Aren't
these
> folks gems?
>
> Regards All, Trevor
>
>
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "karidancar"
> <karidancar@> wrote:
> >
> > I have recently heard news from my former downline who are still
in
> > the business that our Former upline Emeralds Mark and Amy
Slaughter
> > were caught embezzling tool money. They were forced to quit
> > the "business" but not before they SOLD, yes sold, their
business
> to a
> > man named Merle Fields. This is in the Winters Organization. I
am
> > sorry that I waited a day or so to post this. I know that every
bit
> of
> > information that is known can potentially help someone see the
> truth
> > and I meant no harm. I wanted to let Hal know first personally
> because
> > he has helped so much in the past with the healing process and
> seeing
> > the truth that I was duped for too long...(I was a 7500 pin when
my
> > marriage ended because our upline emeralds convinced my husband
he
> > could make more money without me). Many times I heard form stage
at
> > functions and meetings that "you cannot buy your place in this
> > business, this is not a pyramid scheme! This business requires
HARD
> > WORK!" apparently not....seems like all it requires is the right
> > amount on the check! Hear say from my former downline is that
> > appromately $1500 per month was being skimmed off the top of
those
> > tool orders. regardless of the tool embezzlement...buying or
> selling
> > your team/business is definitely an eye opener.
> >
>

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