Sunday, October 21, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: New information regarding the Winters Team

My goodness, they ARE all the same. I had always had the impression
that LTD was a squeaky-clean organization, because that's what they
told us, "We're not like the other organizations. Just look at all
the good people around you." Yes, they are good people, but your
story just goes to prove that the organization is rotten at its core.
How disgusting. I'm sorry about how Quixtar took your husband from
you. My prayers are with you.

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "karidancar" <karidancar@...>
wrote:
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> Well regarding Mark and Amy I truly believe that they WERE stealing
> tool money because of the false allegations put against myself and
> my ex-husband.....
> this is a message posted here on October 6, of last year
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> All my hard work got me was a divorce
>
> Message #44457 of 47093
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> i was in Quixtar with my ex husband for three years. During that
> time we reached the Platinum Level (7500 pv held for six months or
> more) Right before we reached this level, i noticed that our tools
> were increasingly getting more and more behind on delivery and
> backordered. After I questioned my upline platinum that we ordered
> through; a meeting was called with my husband....I was told to stay
> home the MEN were to handle this as they were the "head of the
> house". When i asked what the meeting was about when he retrned
> home....I was told that I needed to submit more and to let him
> handle it. well......two weeks later my husband told me that our
> upline strongly urged him to seek a divorce. Their reasoning was
> that the upline emerald thought that his emeraldship was in danger
> if the upline platinum lady was exposed of stealing tool money and
> not ordering the tools that were ordered by her downline instead
> only ordering a fraction and pocketing the money in order to pay
> their bills and afford function tickets. you see you need three
> platinum legs to maintain a emerald pin. If the third leg of his was
> outed as being a theif...they would loose their team and he would
> not be an emerald. losing credibility and his precious pin and
> paycheck was more important than my marriage. "never embarrass your
> upline" They told him if he did mot cooperate there would be an
> annomous letter sent to his corporation letting them know that even
> though he signed a contract stating he would have no other job or
> business outside their employment he was in fact operating a
> business.Mind you I took care of tools, organized and ran our open
> meeting, as well as had ladies meetings and got the ladies excited
> and motivated all to be cast aside for exposing the truth...these
> people are not in it to help others..they are in it for themselves.
> wether it is to steal your money or to steal your marriage. By the
> way Four months after our divorce, my ex moved to chicago and my ex
> upline convientely set him up with a struggling 300 pin. Now they
> have a match made in heaven. and a strong tight lip.
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> Just an Update: My ex-husband left the team mentioned above and
> changed to another team in the Winters organization after that
> annonymous letter was sent to his employer. Yes they did send it and
> told him to change teams...whatever it takes to protect the secret.
> I guess. "For the greater good" they told him. All this happening
> and then our upline Emeralds being removed just adds up correctly
> for me. I believe they were caught stealing and Larry in order to
> keep that large leg with minimal damage chose to remove them. By the
> way....they sold their business for a mere 10,000 DOLLARS!! I
> thought at the emerald level you were making at least 70 grand per
> year? why sell so cheap? maybe the profit isn't that great after all.
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> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "xxfarmhandxx"
> <xxfarmhandxx@> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmmm….I was in an IBO under Emerald Sandy King under Diamonds
> Jack
> > & Effie Reid. Every now and then a direct or even an emerald
> would
> > mysteriously disappear from the group. Inquiry as to what had
> > happened was always responded to with "hushed, secret, don't tell
> > ANYBODY I told you this" from upline usually along the lines of
> they
> > were caught stealing, embezzling, cheating on spouses, molesting
> > children or some such shocking detail and that Jack had rightfully
> > banned them from the group. Years after leaving Scamway I
> encountered
> > some of these people and found out that they had basically figured
> > out the scam and had tried to right things and were forced or
> bought
> > out, or just resigned.
> > Kind of hard for the Diamonds to explain to the brainwashed masses
> > why anybody in such coveted positions that they had obviously
> worked
> > extremely hard to get to would just up and quit so voilá, instant
> > slander. Once the slander has been carefully disseminated through
> out
> > the group, the strict adherence to no crosslining or negative is
> > relied on to prevent the truth from ever being discovered. I guess
> > that's why anyone who ever quits is just another looser. Aren't
> these
> > folks gems?
> >
> > Regards All, Trevor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "karidancar"
> > <karidancar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have recently heard news from my former downline who are still
> in
> > > the business that our Former upline Emeralds Mark and Amy
> Slaughter
> > > were caught embezzling tool money. They were forced to quit
> > > the "business" but not before they SOLD, yes sold, their
> business
> > to a
> > > man named Merle Fields. This is in the Winters Organization. I
> am
> > > sorry that I waited a day or so to post this. I know that every
> bit
> > of
> > > information that is known can potentially help someone see the
> > truth
> > > and I meant no harm. I wanted to let Hal know first personally
> > because
> > > he has helped so much in the past with the healing process and
> > seeing
> > > the truth that I was duped for too long...(I was a 7500 pin when
> my
> > > marriage ended because our upline emeralds convinced my husband
> he
> > > could make more money without me). Many times I heard form stage
> at
> > > functions and meetings that "you cannot buy your place in this
> > > business, this is not a pyramid scheme! This business requires
> HARD
> > > WORK!" apparently not....seems like all it requires is the right
> > > amount on the check! Hear say from my former downline is that
> > > appromately $1500 per month was being skimmed off the top of
> those
> > > tool orders. regardless of the tool embezzlement...buying or
> > selling
> > > your team/business is definitely an eye opener.
> > >
> >
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