OH Puhleaseee! You are in an MLM Survivors Group not an "I Just
Fell Off the Turnip Seed Truck" Group. While alpine/ecoquest may
not have the tools abuse that the amway/quixtar business does it
still relies on on Quack Science and half truths to peddle
their "air purifiers" and don't even start with the we are a "Space
Certified Technology" by NASA B.S. claim. I researched your company
at the beginning of the year after someone posted a question about
your it. I was in the process of putting together a paper for the
group about my findings before a hip replacement side-lined me but
By God your post was the fire under my butt I needed to finish it
and get it to the group. After I post it we can let the group
decide whether your company is honest or not.
Robby
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
> PJ in NY, I had been thinking along those lines too. Can a MLM be
structured so as to not be ruined by a tools business or simply
building a wholesale buying network?
>
> Let me share my experience with one of the honest MLM operations.
>
> I had been an Alpine distributor of which the product line is now
known as Ecoquest. I still use that original machine I bought for
myself in 1981, than used that as a demonstrator.
>
> I got involved after the founder Bill Converse came to my house to
show me a unique product. I met him at the local Home Show the day
before. I was impressed and bought one and than signed on to be a
dealer. I've sold a lot of them over the years and had peak periods
of interest with it and several years I had dropped out. It fit
well with my main business which is a Carpet Cleaning service and
even when I was not currently signed on as a dealer, I knew where I
could pick one up for delivery to my clients.
>
> The line is unique and is best sold through informed individuals.
Briefly, and not intended to be a commercial but for understanding
only - the air cleaning units do not use filters to clean the air,
but electronically clean the air by radio wave pulses in a 60 foot
radius and a user controlled low level Ozone generator. This would
work even through walls, so you did not need one in every room, and
most often one properly sized unit on top the refrigerator did the
whole house. They have small filters on the units, but that is only
to keep the machine clean inside the unit.
>
> Bill Converse hired on the largest Shaklee dealer to update his
program into more of a MLM structure and eventually he owned 1/2 the
company. I don't know where it stands now, nor the reasoning behind
the name change, as I have not been an official dealer in several
years.
>
> The product line has expanded to have side products such as
vitamins in order to have more volume and continuous volume flow
through the organizations, and not just rely on the one time
expensive machinery sales.
>
> I did not find the same corruption nor building up of a buyers
network, like many MLM's I am aware of. I've been out of it for
quite a while, but I can honestly say they were truly sales oriented
and less on the MLM aspects.
>
> It was promoted as a purely sales orientated business with
suitable rewards for building a sales organization. The company
provided lots of technological information for it's sales force and
less focus on the motivational materials.
>
> I think it's more likely a good MLM business model if the focus is
sales and is a product line not suited for casual salespeople in a
store.
>
> I remembered we had a policy that one could not become a wholesale
dealer, until you first bought one at retail. This way the sales
efforts was rewarded and if that buyer developed into a real
salesman, his demonstration and also recruitments would be properly
rewarded.
>
> There was one big wig who had a tools business for his distributor
organization, but it was a minor aspect and his newsletter was a
free subscription. If there was something the company did not
provide yet we needed, he would seek the best solution and make a
volume buy and make those items available at reasonable prices.
Quite a bit of what he developed became materials available to all
the Alpine distributors.
>
> So yes, I think an honest MLM business can be designed and run.
If rules were put in place early on so a tools business and
resulting greed, nor deceptive practices could not take over the
whole business.
>
> Tom K
> Charlotte, NC
> Formerly Alpine Distributor (3 times, yet still sell some on
occasion)
> Formerly Nikken Distributor
> Formerly Amway Distributor (5 times over the years, and thinking
about it again)
> I must be looney!!
>
>
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