On Tuesday 05 June 2007, momluvseliana wrote:
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
> <paine_wwweb_
> > > I am bored and I need drama. Do you think
> > > it will work if I were to send/forward these
> > > sites/articles to my friends in my address
> > > book and happen to send it to my cousin? I
> > > know she will read it.
> > >
> > >
> > > I do not plan on talking to her, so I think
> > > it would be a cool idea to send these to her.
> > > What do you all think?
> >
> > You ask "Do you think it would work...?" How would you
>
> define "working?"
>
> > What is the result you want?
>
> I want her to read and have a light bulb go off.
That'd be great, wouldn't it?
Ain't gonna happen. Accept that now and you can do much more to help
her in the long run. She's in it for emotional reasons. It has
nothing to do with logic or facts (and if anyone is going to start
debating that subject again, I'm going to insist they stick exactly to
that subject and support all they say). She's drawn in because they've
sold to her her very own dream. (Reread that carefully -- I couldn't
phrase it differently and the "her her" is confusing without voice
tone.) There is no fact, no series of facts, no truth, no logic, no
proof that you can put in front of her that will actually convince her
that she's wrong.
She's just too busy being an important business owner and especially too
busy being right to care about the truth.
> I guess in my own
> world it would. I read the article about how to Get Critical with
> MLM'rs, and yes it seems to me that I may want to "release some pent
> up resentment," and "belittle my opponent."
Been there. Done that. It may be what trashed my relationship at the
time. It's tempting due to the frustration of the situation. I know.
I saw it in dealing with MLM people and I saw the same situation when I
was working in treatment and dealing with people in denial over their
issues.
> But on the other hand I
> do want to educate my friends about what I have learned about MLM's.
> It seems to be everywhere around me ever since this experience.
> I told my husband I don't care for her so I won't send her a
> response, but at the same time I do care because I am one of those
> people who can't be a silent witness.
What seems weird to me is that almost everyone here seems to have seen a
lot of recruiters coming up to them once they're exposed to their first
MLM. Me? I bumped into someone from Prepaid Legal that, luckily,
didn't even try to recruit me. That's been it. I must be lucky. I
decided, after dealing with my ex-gf, that if any MLMers did show up,
I'd be completely straightforward and honest, to the point of telling
them I've researched the business model, don't like it, don't trust it,
and am doing very well on my own with the business I started without
anyone telling me what to do.
> I guess my subject line would be, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT MULTI LEVEL
> MARKETING "BUSINESSES"
> I was even thinking about sending some cartoons and mlm business
> cards because I think they are hilarious, just like the rest of the
> junk email out there.
Yes, that's a point to consider. I can't tell you how many e-mails I
get from people telling me to watch out for this scam or that criminal.
Actually, I don't get them anymore. I've trained all my friends. When
they sent me one, I'd find the appropriate page about that urban myth
on Snopes.com or TruthOrFiction.
They've either stopped forwarding crap to me or learned to check it out
first.
On the other hand, if there were some well written statements about
MLMs, it might be a good idea to send them out. Once sent, they'll
circulate through the Internet for years and huge numbers of people
will get them.
Maybe I should write up a few...
> The thing is she is a nice person who probably doesn't even know that
> she may be ruining other people's lives by trying to recruit them.
That's why I use the word "evil" to describe MLMs -- and I don't even
use the word to describe Osama bin Laden (as I've said here many
times). They get people who want to help, brainwash them, and turn
them into drones to go out and, with the best of intentions, recruit
more drones to ruin more lives. We're fighting the Borg.
> I
> am pretty sure that is not her goal. She explains over and over in
> this email that this product is a miracle, and I don't have a problem
> with that.
She believes it's a miracle, but in my experience, the placebo effect
tends to wear off after a while. It may take her time.
> My problem is is that she doesn't know the real deal
> behind the flawed business aspect. I'm thinking she hasn't read
> anything from these sites and the money math. Her family is more
> broke than my family, and I would really hate to see her life ruined
> because of this.
She won't read any of it. She's already been told to see other views as
bad and "dream steelers" and so on. Anything that contradicts what
she's been told she will ignore Remember the original "Invasion of the
Body Snatchers?" Well, she's a pod person now and unable to understand
us regular humans. Instead she follow the commands sent out to all the
pod people.
> If we were closer cousins/friends then I would have for sure
> discussed it more and for sure sent these links. Part of me wants to
> send it to see if she even knows about these facts, and part of me
> just wants to let her learn on her own. (But it sucks because part
> of me doesn't want her to get in too deep, and blame herself for not
> succeeding.) Geez 99% failure says a lot to me, I would just hope it
> would mean the same to her.
I can tell you if you try to show her the facts, it'll only make her mad
and that will make future discourse very difficult.
Hal
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