Alan,
From your letter I was unclear if you were still in Quixtar or interested in it. Take it from someone who knows
first hand. If you start with Quixtar you should have no problem doing 100 PV. It's just those little things like
mortgage, insurance, electricity and feeding your family that you will eventually do without. Quixtar gets you so
wrapped up in "helping others" that you won't realize the truth it till you are totally bankrupt. They then keep
telling you that you are just not trying hard enough because you can look just around and see how successful everyone
else is. The problem is that you are taught to dress the part and NO ONE is allowed to speak a "negative" thought
against Quixtar or they are quickly expunged from the group. You end up with a bunch of nicely dressed lemmings running
off the cliff together and even when they are drowning will still not admit the fact because each one is fooling the
other into thinking that they are all doing great. Your use of the word "cult" hit the nail on the head. I was
probably with one of the worse groups because they even preached the it was "God's will" that we all be in Quixtar. The
alternative was that you were a "loser" and a "failure" and it was all your own fault for not following the "plan".
You also said that you liked Quixtar products. I was an IBO and still have the "kit" with all the pricing for all
the "concentrated" products. I tried some and for the most part do not see much significant improvement by doing so. I
am told I can use less soap when washing. In my opinion I could probably use less of any soap and not really notice the
difference. Since Quixtar teaches you to be positive about "EVERYTHING"
products, especially if everyone else is telling you how good it is, since they are not allowed to think or say negative
thoughts.
It is all brainwashing and manipulation and while you may have a grasp on reality and feel safe, do you really want
to support a organization which brainwashes people, drains them dry and dumps them when they complain? I wish you the
best. God bless.
James
----- Original Message -----
From: "buddahboy77" <buddahboy77@
To: <mlmsurvivorsclub@
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: [MLM Survivors Club] My introduction to the cult
>
> I recently joined Quixtar and LTD a couple of months ago. I was
> excited and traveled in a car pool to the LTD team meeting in Raleigh
> 1 1/2 months ago. The meeting room was bursting with people and the
> halls held several people. I sat on the floor at the back of the room.
>
> The meeting started at 7pm and was supposed to end at 11pm but
> dragged on to midnight. I'm a member of Toastmasters, a public
> speaking and leadership group (not MLM), and familiar with good public
> speaking. I expected a more professional meeting and content, but was
> disappointed.
>
> Sixty percent of the meeting time the platnums and emeralds hogged
> the mic (with a lot of you know's, Uh's, etc.) with the "I Love You
> You love me" stuff. Five percent was spent talking about product
> (found that to be strange), and ten percent about how to recruit. The
> rest of the time was the motivation/ cd & book selling time.
>
> By 11:30 my mind was restless from the incessant you know's and my
> butt was numb, so I slipped outside for a walk. I saw dozens of people
> in a daze trying to stay awake in the hall, and I said to myself "this
> is like David Koresh's cult in Waco". I was out in the parking lot
> when the meeting finally ended at midnight, and I saw a couple of car
> speed out of the parking lot like a bat out of hell!
>
> After that I went to the night owl with my upline team at a nearby
> pizza place, and the buffet lines were enormous. After eating, we had
> a long meeting (ie. Joe Markiewicz preaching until 3 am). Then my team
> carpooled the 3hr trip back to Charlotte where I live, and I crashed
> at home just before sunrise.
>
> I have two good friends who used to be in Amway years ago, and I
> described the meeting to them. I amused them with my description of
> the cult.
>
> Two weeks later, I went to a local chamber networking hob nob with
> a good friend. I was learning how to do introductions and pass out
> business cards. I arrived home late and didn't want to bother going to
> the open meeting so I surfed google videos about Quixtar and the
> products. I was dumbfounded to learn more about the products on google
> than from my upline.
>
> A couple of days later,I was surfing on google video again, and
> realized my upline doesn't know any crap at all about marketing
> either. Why is it called network marketing if nobody is marketing?
> Calling friends and family and roaming the malls is not much of a plan!!
>
> I've seen first-hand the desperation new IBOs have, but they are
> not being taught anything but recruiting and buying your 100 PV. I've
> gone from shocked to angry about how the LTD tools business is ripping
> off the membership with motivation but very little useful information.
>
> It's like a person getting addicted to crack (tools). They get the
> buzz of excitement for the first time, and will do anything stupid to
> get it back again, but only ruin themselves. The crack dealers are
> desperate crack heads themselves, and only care to sell more crack.
>
> Looking for better options. I like the Quixtar products themselves,
> but more interested in legitimate retailing. I can't look to my upline
> for help, and I don't have the cashflow to do 100 PV on my own.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Alan L.
> Charlotte, NC
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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