My responses are in blue. I am a "member" of LTD.
I'm glad for the warm response. :-) I'm sure you can imagine how
earth-shattering this whole thing has been for me.
I was hesitant to name the scam because I wasn't entirely sure it was
allowed, but here it goes: It's Amway/Quixtar/
which is short for "Leadership Team Development"
My friend keeps trying to convince me that LTD is not just a part of
Quixtar, but so far I haven't found it to be involved with anything
other than it.
<<<<<LTD is affiliated with Quixtar. There isn't a function/meeting/
I did force a conversation with her last night. It went rather like an
intervention. She still doesn't believe me, but I managed to plan
doubts in her mind about the whole thing.
She started to tell me that I couldn't possibly understand, and I
said, "Why, because I'm not in the Business? Did you get upline
counseled to say that to me, or did your mentor tell you to say it?"
<<<<<Upline does try to influence what you say when you talk to people. They encourage you to surround yourself with positive and get the negative out of your life. Well who wouldn't benefit from a life with out negativity? But their idea is basically anyone not in "the business" is a negative influence. Who cares if it's family or friends when you join you have new family and friends in LTD>>>>>>
Well, that sure gave her pause. How did I know about that? I told her
that I can do the whole lingo thing, I know what it is, and I
explained in further detail what will be expected of her, and that as
far as I could see, this "LTD" thing is NOT a member of the BBB as
they claim. Or maybe it's Quixtar claiming it; I don't know, I haven't
been to a meeting, nor will I go to one.
<<<Quixtar is a member of the BBB not LTD>>>>
She told me that she didn't want to hear my negativity. Isn't that
another catch-phrase of these groups? Anyone who doesn't support them
is negative? She said those were her own words, but it sure sounded
like a scripted response.
<<<See my comment above>>>>>
Anyway, she says she hasn't paid anything into this so far, but she's
already been taught to redefine (I think that was the word) her
shopping habits by shopping for things on Quixtar instead of in shops.
<<<<<There are some products that I do like to use. That is the only reason I will remain an IBO. I don't go to seminars/rallies/
She was even trying to get me to buy things; she was telling me about
how great the detergent is and how all her things look new. I was
like, "Dude you are a walking commercial." I finally appeased her by
saying I would consider going to a meeting with her, and that I'd be
her customer, but I steered the conversation away into more pleasant
things. She kept trying to bring up "the Business", but I always shot
back with some of my knowledge from the Net and she'd get really quiet.
<<<<Let's put it this way. Once you are in "the business" that's all you will discuss with everyone. Why?? because you have been brainwashed to believe that this is God's desire in your life.... that you can make a difference in other peoples' lives. Everyone in "the business" wants all their friends and families to know how great it is. Half of them never really make any money but the thought that just maybe they could be "the one" to take it to diamond in 5 years keeps them going. it's like dangling a treat in front of a dog. They never take their eyes off of it and salivate. Pretend to drop the treat and they go sniffing for it eager to find it but their eyes always come back to that treat. That's how "the business" is. They fill you with vivid pictures of millionaire lifestyle and then tell the sob story of how they all made it... your typical rags to riches. I could give you some stories. Email me if you want them>>>>>
I know it seems mean, but I can't help myself. I won't let our
friendship go so easily, and she's not going to get me to roll over
and be quiet on this issue. She'll eventually have to choose, I'm
afraid -- and I'm not sure, based on what I've seen so far, if she'll
have the ability to break free on her own, or until she can't make any
money.
<<<<<<If you haven't changed her mind yet, she'll most likely choose "the business" over your friendship for now. Not to say she won't come back to you but she's being fed that stuff over and over again so she's bought it hook line and sinker.>>>>>
Thanks to everyone for reading my rants. It's been a tough few weeks
for me, and I get the impression that things will probably only get
worse from now on.
~Krissy
P.S. -- Has anyone heard of LTD before? The whole name seems too happy
and shiny for my taste.
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