--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "bobztwin" <campbrob@...>
wrote:
> PW
> I have read your last few posts and I am frustrated that you seem
to
> be one of the very few who gets it. Sometimes I think many of the
> people are here to bash MLMs, and that is fine. But those of us
who
> got taken, really got taken and some of us are not all bad.
Bob, I can't really recall anybody coming in here and accusing any
Survivors of being bad because we were in the business for any
length of time be it short or long. Now we have had plenty of pros
come in and accuse us of being lazy/stupid/quitters/losers for
dumping the biz but I don't think they are part of this discussion.
>
> If you get convinced, and then you do what they say, and you make
> money, it is a different amount of time for every one to realize
the
> facts. When I finally figured it out, I was making good money, and
> walked away from it. (yes I can prove I made money, and would send
a
> schedule C to PW by private email if needed, but it's not needed
For this I have the utmost respect for you. I have wondered and
have expressed it in this club what would have happened if I had
played the game just as they wanted me to. If I had built the
business as I was directed by my sponsor and upline and made it to
emerald and diamond and started making the vast majority of my money
from the tools at the cost of my downline, all the while leading the
same downline to believe that my income came from the plan. Would I
have had the scruples to walk away? I would like to say yes but
frankly I'm not so sure. It's the same type of question as if I was
a German during the 1930's-1940s, would I have been a patriotic good
little NAZI buying the party line or would I have risked it all to
join the resistance? I can only speak for me and I find these
questions pretty scary if I am totally honest with myself.
It makes my day to see any person leave this God forsaken scam no
matter how involved or what pin level they had obtained. It also
makes my day to see a prospective recruit come in here and learn the
true nature of the biz and tell their would be sponsor they ain't
interested.
>
> Bitter? I guess. Duped? probably. Sleazy? no. Rip off artist? no.
> It worked like they said it would, and I believed. After I looked
> back, I figured it out and left.
I don't consider you sleazy or a rip-off artist. In my particular
case it did not work like they said it would and I believe that my
experience is more the norm. It was a classic "bait-n-switch", they
told me one thing and proceeded non-stop to do another, all the
while keeping the tools profit totally hidden. The lies began even
before I signed the paperwork, starting with I would "save 30%
purchasing from myself" to "we don't make money until you make
money". I could sit here and reguritate the lies until my fingers
bleed and still not list all of them.
I do think that ex-distributors and ibos need to take some personal
responsibility. I have no doubt that all the lies my sponsor told
me he had no idea were lies. He was just taking their word and
repeating upline and tapespeak. In turn I repeated the same lies as
if it were the gospel truth. However even though he and I were
ignorant of the truth that does not negate the fact that we were
repeating lies in an attempt to build our business. Giving us some
credit though this was before the Internet and the critical
information on the web so there was little we could do to verify or
disprove what we were told. However today any person can find the
truth and has very little excuse for not doing their due diligence.
There is no excuse for my upline emerald, upline diamond, all the
way to my upline crown ambassador dex. They knew they were lying
and they were directly benefiting from these lies. Even so if they
were to suddenly have a change of heart and realize the damage they
have caused and walk away from the biz I would welcome them as I
would any Survivor. All of us Survivors have one thing in common--
we were victims, even if it means we were victims of
ourselves.
Some of the posters on the site
> don't get it, and are suggesting you might be stupid or sleazy
> because you were in for so long. I am convinced you were/are
neither.
Once again I don't see where any posters have suggested PW is stupid
or sleazy. I'm sure if someone did PW would not let that go without
a helluva fight. What would be left over from the poster would
certainly be wiped out by many of us joining him in support. And I
certainly agree that PW is neither, just reading one or two of his
posts sets that to rest.
> BTW, for those who are not seasoned lurkers, PW's wife is a
> physician. Most stupid people don't get into medical school.
>
> Anyway, thanks for fighting the fight, and I for one respect you,
> even though you drank the kool aid for a period of time.
>
> Bobz
>
I have respect for you, PW, and every Survivor, no matter how much
kool aid we may have drank.
Respectfully,
Robby
