An update:)....
My boyfriend's upline did come for a visit. I didn't get a chance to
speak with him personally, however, my boyfriend did ask him about the
tool/function money, and when IBOs started to see that money.
To my surprise, the question was answered pretty well. He was told
that once you hit Platinum, you begin to see some of the profit from
the tools and they may start to pay you for training people (running
weekly meetings), and more once you hit Emerald and above. Most of
the money you see is from tools, but you get some amount of function
money depending on how many IBOs in your leg? section? go to the
functions. The upline also explained that Diamonds have a food spread
and such at the functions that everyone else does not, so some of the
function money goes toward that, although you don't see those benefits
until you reach diamond. The higher you get, the more money you make,
though the upline wasn't sure of the exact amounts. Even more to my
surprise, he told my boyfriend all questions along this line were
welcome, and that he'd (upline) asked similar ones when he started.
His upline also said that the money he tells people he makes (6
figures) comes *only* from the Quixtar portion of the business, and
the tool money is a separate figure that he does not add in.
So...thoughts? I'm not really sure what to make of it all. Is it the
truth? Is it what the upline *believes* is true? I'm really not sure
what to make of it all.
The rest of this post is quite long, but I have no other place to
share all this. The first portion of this post, about the upline, is
what I thought most people would be interested in. Feel free to read
or skip the rest, but it's there in case anyone has any thoughts, or
has spare time to read my ramblings:)
My boyfriend and I also had an interesting discussion re. the "cult
side" of Quixtar, which *he* initiated. He said he feels that a lot
of the cult claims come from people who "ask their upline about
everything". He says he's noticed this piece of advice on some of his
CDs (though it often seems to be in passing). One time it was even in
relation to dating. My BF stated that he would *never* ask his upline
what to do in a non-business situation (i.e. dating, marriage, kids,
buying a house or car) and he's not sure why some of the CDs say to,
or why some people do so. He said his upline is aware that I'm not
interested in Quixtar (ever), and that he's not sure what some of the
members of his upline would say if my BF directly asked them what they
thought of this. And then my BF stated that he would never find out
what they thought because he would never ask them. "It's none of
their business. If you need to ask opinions about a relationship,
you'd ask close friends and family, and then make your own decision
regardless." And I told him I wouldn't be dating him in the first
place if I thought he was the kind of person who would blindly ask for
and take advice that didn't make sense (i.e. "ask your upline").
I'm hoping the fact that he's noticed these things in the CDs (and
that these things bother him) might help out down the road.
After that, he mentioned that the fact I'm not interested would be
interesting "down the road" because all of the Diamonds on the CDs are
married and work together with their spouse. He's never heard of a
person who is married and building the business alone. (Not that were
married, of course, but perhaps down the road...) He said that often,
one spouse was against the business and then later became interested.
I took this as an opening to stress again that even if the businesses
works exactly as he'd like it to, I still will never be interested.
Moral issues aside, selling anything at all (products or an
idea)...it's not where my talents or interests lie and that most
couples have separate professions and don't work together. Am I
worried that this will all become some bigger issue down the road?
Yes, though I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it won't...or that
he'll get out of Quixtar before it does.
-EA
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<Narcissedespres@
>
> Hey all:) I may have a chance to speak with someone several levels up
> in my boyfriend's upline. I've met him before, and even given all I
> know about Quixtar, this person seemed quite sincere. He heard I
> wasn't at all interested in the buisness, even a little, and I never
> once heard anything from him that even remotely sounded like a
> recruiting pitch directed at me. I also know that he buys the CDs and
> such, and supplies them to his downline for free. (The cost to him
> must be astronomical.
> some of the questions that my boyfriend has been having trouble
> answering (i.e. tool profits, how much the higher levels actually make
> from selling product vs. tool and function money, when you start
> seeing that money, how much do those at the higher levels actually
> make each month once you subtract tools and personal PV, etc.) I'm
> looking for help coming up with direct, clearly-worded, neutral and
> non-actustory sounding questions and I was wondering if any of you had
> some ideas:)
>
> I was also wondering this, and could find no answer on the internet.
> Does anyone know the percentage of people who leave an MLM and then
> later either join again or join another one, vs. the number of people
> who leave the MLM world for good once they get out?
>
> -EA
>
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