Wednesday, March 19, 2008

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: explanation...

ruby,
I certainly appreciate your drive to gather information. I have
posted before, my criteria for judging MLMs. In my book, they are bad
if they satisfy any of the following: (I will explain why if you are
interested)

1. Require you to buy product to be a distributor.
2. Require any "training" for the job.
3. Require you to "qualify" at some level(in recruitment OR sales) in
order to get commissions.

I am not personally familiar(other than this forum and google) with
Mary Kay or Avon, Tupperware or the jewellery thing - but I'd be
interested to know if they meet any of the above.(My attempt to
gather information).

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, rubyshamrock4 <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Well, so many questions, let's see if I can remember them all and
> respond.
> You aren't sure my motive is really information gathering because I
> have friends and family involved in multiple different mlm
> companies? That's not really something I can convince you of
> obviously, you'll believe what you want apparently. I am an
> information seeker. If I am searching for Premiere Jewelry, find out
> it's an MLM, then search for MLM scams and find this group...it
> piques my interest, I join up to see what I can find out further.
> The only post about them I have found here is seven years old and not
> very detailed.
> I can only speak to what I have seen about the companies my close
> loved ones are into...they have never high pressured me to join, buy
> or have parties. So I guess not all mlm's are teaching these
> negative, anti family practices that you keep saying they do. Of
> course, I am not telling them they are brain washed because they have
> ambitions to make themselves a business out of these companies.
> I also am not their prime market because I personally don't wear
> jewelry or use cosmetics.
> Is a steak house the same as an MLM? No. But I doubt all MLM's have
> the same EXACT structure either.
> My uncle sells cars and guess what, his boss makes money off of his
> sales too. Managers make commissions off of employees. Exactly the
> same? Nope. But the same basic principle. Every higher level makes
> a bit more off of the ones below them. My uncle also wins incentive
> trips for having the most sales, etc.
> My SIL who sells jewelry makes money, loves having the parties and
> enjoys the company of the women she meets. I am sure not everyone
> makes tons of money. Neither do car salesmen, waitresses,
> managers...there are successful and unsuccessful people in all
> businesses and professions.
> I can grasp that some companies are only pushing recruiting and not
> product sales. If they don't make sales, then I can see they might
> not be viable as an avenue for money making...but if you are selling
> product, to those who want it, not forcing your friends and family to
> buy it, then surely these folks are making some money. Is it going
> to make you rich quick? I don't foresee anything doing that without
> work short of winning the lottery...
> Alcoholics analogy wasn't really hitting home for me...
> If I know someone who is a diabetic, I won't start telling EVERYONE
> not to eat sugar...or that fruit is sweet, so it must be bad too.
> Ok, so if we are going to be open minded, can we not admit that not
> ALL mlm's are created equal? Or that at least the possibility exists
> that one is not bad? Mary Kay, Tupperware, Avon, Premiere
> Jewelry...I know someone involved in them all and I don't see that
> they are being brainwashed like I keep hearing here about some of
> these things like Arbonne and Quixtar, Amway. So how long does it
> take for the supposed brainwashing to happen? Are they all just
> doing it wrong because they haven't pressured me to be a rep yet?
>

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