On 18 Mar 2008 at 15:03, rubyshamrock4 wrote:
> Roxy...I in no way intended to offend you by misquoting or mistaking
> what you were saying concerning your sister. I think it is a perfect
> way for your sister to involve you in something she is passionate about
> without putting on the pressure to buy. If you like it...you will get
> more I guess.
Just a note, telling someone that they are overreacting and that they were
having a fit, doesn't jive with the "not meaning to offend" vibe. I am
passionate about many things. It does not mean I eat, sleep, breathe and
more...these things I am passionate about..to the exclusion of all else.
Arbonne is just not an appropriate "gift". It may be what Roxy's sister
wanted her to have...but again, to me, that isn't the true definition of gift.
> Every1...
> I am just trying to absorb what is being said and not trying to become
> completely close minded about MLM's in general, because I don't think
> you can lump them all together, especially in light of a company like
> Avon becoming multi level.
Yes, yes you can lump all MLM's together because they ALL follow a multi
level commission plan. And multiple level commission plans do not allow
but for less than 1% to make money. Period!
The closeminded comment sounds so much like MLM speak. Are you sure
you're not IN an MLM? Can't tell you how many MLMers have told me that,
"if you were a bit more openminded, you might see something you like".
And as someone else mentioned, longevity is not a sign of ethics.
> I can understand the purpose of the group is to protect those who feel
> victimized or affected by MLM's, but should we become as obstinant
> about all MLM's being bad as proponents of them claim they are all good?
I think you might mean "obstinate" which means unyielding to
persuasion..
options, researched, read AND experienced firsthand...
conclusion and came here to be surrounded by others who came to the
same conclusion. This isn't a place (in my mind) to debate the validity of
MLMs. There are plenty of those places out there for that. This is a group of
SURVIVORS those who have been hurt by MLMs in some way/shape or
form. So why come here and expect an openness towards MLMs?
> I am here to objectively gather info in general because I have had so
> many different family members involved in different things...but
> basically it seems like the business model is a viable one in theory
> and I just don't see much wrong with self promotion.
Well there you go...you're looking for information to back up your theory that
MLMs are a viable business model. Definitely, not the place for you. This IS
the place if you would like your theory tested though. By actual numbers
and by those who have been there.
If your sister
> owned a steak house (and it was a franchise even) she would probably
> tell you to come on down and eat there...no one would argue that you
> should support her.
Even a steakhouse owner breaks away and has a life outside the restaurant.
Not every conversation and thought has to do with getting customers into
the restaurant. Supporting someone is one thing but when my support is
made to be connected to my pocket book...honestly, you have no right to
expect it.
> Is there room in this group for someone to be truly openminded and open
> to the possibility that not all MLM's are created equal?
See....you're wrong to assume that folks here are closeminded because
they don't agree with you. We were all once open to MLM (or most of us
were) and that openness forced us to ultimately do the research that brought
our current opinions about. I'm sorry but IMHO it is you who is closeminded.
lol...I just read Hal's response and see that we've made a number of the
same points..but I'll go ahead and send this along anyhow.
Lauren
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