Hi,
Even though Hal already wrote a great response to this I wanted to add a couple of things.
The examples you cited were examples of people who did not understand or employ skeptical thinking.
PW has pointed out on many occasions that the uplines people are extremely good at persuasion - they are professionals at it. This is how they made their money. Most of us cannot hope to match them in an argument - especially when it comes to 'their' specialty. One of the main recruitment tactics employed by manipulative people is to head off the 'recruit' from using skeptical thinking. Appeal to emotion and to need. As several people have said on this list - the decision to join an MLM is never a logical one - it is always an emotional one.
You mentioned 'I, too, did read positive as well as negative prior to join
Quixtar, but after hours and hours of researching, I said, "Screw
this, everyone on both sides sound biased, so I can't really know
anything from these websites." '
Let us look at that statement - in such a circumstance there are only three possibilities; 1) pro-mlm was right, anti-mlm was wrong 2) anti-mlm was right and pro-mlm was wrong 3) They are both wrong. The ONLY logical way to proceed would be to examine the claims of both sides that can be verified and see which ones hold up. It doesn't matter whether they sound biased - bias has nothing to do with it.
WE have often discussed what it is that gets people OUT of such things as Quixtar, Herbalife and so on and I think all of us pretty much agree that one of the key moments is when you can get the member to start asking questions themself - not trying to answer your questions but when they start to question the whole fantasy.
If yu can persuade people to do that BEFORE they get in - ah, then they don't join.
Mick
chandranova <chandranova@
is no guarantee that a person will stay away from them. I give you 3
cases studies:
1) My brother, who introduced me to the Quixtar MLM, told me an
interesting story about how he got convinced to join. Despite the
fact that he also did prior research and found some negative info on
it, when he told his soon-to-be upline sponsor about it, his upline
responded by saying, "Yeah, I saw those websites, too, at first, but
I joined anyway because this is the real thing." The fact that
someone would join despite "negative" info (haha, I still speak like
an Ambot!!) really impressed my brother, and this is one of the
factors that actually convinced him to join!
2) I, too, did read positive as well as negative prior to join
Quixtar, but after hours and hours of researching, I said, "Screw
this, everyone on both sides sound biased, so I can't really know
anything from these websites."
3) This kid, who I contacted, despite watching the NBC Dateline on
the Quixtar scam and having initial apprehensions, after being
contacted by 5 different people in the same day, at the mall where he
worked, went to the meeting and went out enthusiastic. His take on
it was, "If so many people are doing this thing, then there must be
something to it!"
So my point is, just getting the information isn't enough. The
turning point for me was wrong I kept feeling that something was
wrong or off (which, btw, they tell you is a "normal" feeling when
first starting out), and that led me to revisit my research, when I
stumbled upon Merchants of Deception. Reading that really did it for
me. Prior to that, the people I contacted kept asking me about the
negative websites that they saw, which prompted me to actually look
them up in hopes of doing "damage control". I am thankful for these
people because each time I did this, the cult's hold on me loosened a
bit.
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