Thursday, November 15, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Vending Machine idea was really NONI JUICE idea...

I told him I would email him some info... since he's working thrid
shift and reads his email on his down time.

I kept my point of view on helping his friend. So that I could
avoid sounding like I was nagging him.....

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "paine_wwweb_r"
<paine_wwweb_r@...> wrote:
>
> > I will do the usual google search
> > of Noni+scam....
>
> Good. That's what I'm doing.
>
>
> > I told my hubby that I belong to this
> > group and that I am very well aware of
> > MLMs and how they (don't) work. I told
> > him I'd find some legit info to forward
> > on to him.
>
> SINCE he has not been sucked into the scam yet, this may be the
best
> approach. If he already believes, it would be a horrible approach.
>
> My initial search yielded this site:
>
> http://www.livescience.com/health/061017_bad_juice.html
>
> It looks pretty valid and brings up some research into logical
> assumptions that, as it turns out, just don't jive with the health
> claims of Noni sales reps. For instance, if Noni is such a miracle
> juice, why don't the people who live where it grows enjoy the
benefits
> of its claimed properties? You would think residents of South
Pacific
> islands would be free, or at least MOSTLY free, of cancer and
diabetes
> and other maladies that Noni claims to cure. Those claims simply
> don't pass inspection.
>
> Okay, so you're doing a Google search, you've got the LiveScience
web
> site and you've got this group. A couple of final suggestions:
>
> 1) FULL disclosure. Be sure you tell him that the members of this
> group have experienced MLM first-hand and that our experiences were
> not good. Because of our shared background with a variety of MLMs,
> that will necessarily lead to the conclusion we have reached: that
> there are no good MLMs. He needs to know the bias of this group.
>
> We are not impartial, and it would be misleading to have him
believe
> otherwise. If he was to go back to his friend (the one involved in
> Noni), he would be told that HIS program is different than the ones
> "all those bitter ex-MLMers" had done. He would try to diminish
our
> experience and credibility. Your husband needs to know that our
> credibility is just as valid as his friend's.
>
> 2) He also needs to know that there are multiple facets to MLM
that
> need to be considered. One is the product. Another is the
> compensation plan. Another is the training/tools system. Still
> another is the reputation of the company and the claims that are
being
> made by existing reps.
>
> I could probably go on and on about each of these areas, but I
think
> you could probably do just as well to think about it briefly and
have
> a few answers ready. If he's going to sell Noni juice, especially
> from vending machines, is there a demand for it? Is anyone else
doing
> it that way? If not, why not? Surely, someone must have thought
of
> putting Noni juice in vending machines before now if there's money
to
> be made at it.
>
> How is the compensation plan structured? Who makes the money? If
> your husband and his friend place a vending machine somewhere and
no
> one else is doing anything to sell that product in that area, is
> someone else making money on that vending machine for doing
nothing?
>
> If your husband and his friend are selling from one vending
machine,
> will they still be selling via direct marketing? Will they be
selling
> the juice or the opportunity? What sort of training program
exists to
> help them do that, and how much does that training cost? Who makes
> the money on that?
>
> Finally, there is a lot of controversy surrounding Noni and the
> products made with it. There are a lot of claims, many of them
> unfounded and false, made about Noni, and some of those claims have
> resulted in people doing things that were contrary to their
doctors'
> advice. Some people have surely been harmed by acting of the
claims
> of Noni reps.
>
> Is your husband prepared to be the subject of legal action if
someone
> is harmed by something they did on his recommendation? Whether or
not
> your husband is a medical professional, there is a lot to lose when
> you start selling things that are marketed as "miracle cures."
>
> It doesn't take a lot of Google searching to see that Noni is
marketed
> as a "miracle cure." Does he really want to be any part of such a
> thing as that? When it comes to ANYTHING you're selling that
someone
> else is going to ingest, you have to REALLY know your product and
what
> you're claiming it does - the up side AND the down.
>
> If he knows all of that and still wants to get involved, there may
be
> little anyone can do to stop him. I hope you've caught him early
> enough and that the pressure he'll probably get from his friend
can be
> overcome by the evidence against Noni.
>
>
> Good Luck to you.
>
>
> PW
>

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