On Thursday 15 November 2007, paine_wwweb_
> > Yes, it does play into the claims by Noni...
>
> It may play into the *claims* of Noni, but not because there's any
> real evidence that Noni products cure diseases brought on by Western
> lifestyle. There are many factors that can result in better health
> than that of people who live the way we do.
>
> How does the lifestyle of natives of south Pacific islands compare
> with the health of native Americans before the influence of European
> culture? There might be a decent comparison there.
That is true, but I still feel dirty posting anything that could be
twisted or used to say a group of crooks like the Noni people.
> Japan is a great example of how Western influence has impacted the
> health of a nation.
>
> The relative good health of native islanders is probably more a
> condemnation of our Western diet and lifestyle than an endorsement of
> Noni Juice. It should be no surprise that they can live on the
> stuff. But as we all know, extraordinary claims require extraordinary
> proof. And curative claims like those of Noni reps are extraordinary.
Yes, it's only one part of an overall lifestyle and it's also important
to remember, they're not drinking Noni. They're drinking the straight
juices.
Heyerdahl made some interesting points in the book about how the natives
had adapted to the ways of nature. While it's not a diet issue, one
point was that they knew where to put their villages to avoid mosquitos
and other issues. They paid attention to little things like where the
breeze was the strongest and how to avoid parasites and other problems
Heyerdahl and his wife ran into by just blundering in and thinking they
knew what they were doing. They thought the native huts were flimsy
and in an area vulnerable to the strong winds, so they built their
house out of different materials back in the woods. It ended up
stinking and rotting, plus they were invaded by mosquitos.
To me, that's an example of the different lifestyles and how one group
had learned to live with nature but "civilized" people fight nature at
every step of the way. It helps those living there.
That's also one of the reasons people buy into the lies the Noni people
tell. We all have this image of non-advanced civilizations living with
nature and learning from it. It's the Noble Savage (remember that one
from Literature class?). We have this innate trust that if it's
natural and known by some kind of native tribe it's true.
Yes, the natives know a lot that we've forgotten, but that doesn't mean
Noni is one of their secrets.
Hal
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