I think the thing to remember is that there ARE fruits and their
juices that have beneficial properties.
Cherries/Blueberrie
decrease inflammation, help vision, etc. But these are commonly found
at any health food store and many grocery stores at reasonable prices.
Enter Noni and Mangosteen and Melaleuca and all their ilk - yeah, they
probably have some beneficial aspects - but the minute a MLM group
gets hold of them (and they can't be readily found in a local store,
so they can charge a ridiculous price) - they somehow develop
*magical* qualities. And due to the Oral Tradition of MLM - where
someone recites an anecdotal story and suddenly EVERYONE is repeating
it - the product continues to get hyped until it's a veritable
Fountain of Youth and the Ultimate Cure for Everything.
The terrifying part is when people who have a medical condition trade
sensible and AMA-approved treatment for the quackery of an MLM. And
if that person dies because they were treating their diabetes with
Noni juice, for example...their death certificate will say the
diabetes killed them, and the REAL executioner goes on to sell more
snake oil to someone else.
But just in case someone actually figures out these quacks *might* be
killing people - I wouldn't want a vending-machine full of Noni or any
other "magical" juice around ;-)
Just my opinion, of course.
Deb
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
> When i did my search, I came up with two links that I think would be
> credible to the general eye. One was a CBS News video that
> basically called them liars for all the health claims they made.
> The other was a health journal that suggested that Noni "could" have
> contributed to some liver damage of two different patients.
>
> Knowing that my hubby in particular will beieve news stories at
> least to some extent, and that he would be at least a bit concerned
> with what a health journal says, I sent him those two links. He
> recently had some pains that he thought were his liver (it wasn't),
> so that is still fresh in his mind.
>
> We'll see if anything happens from this point.
>
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> >
> > On Thursday 15 November 2007, paine_wwweb_
> > > > Yes, it does play into the claims by Noni...
> > >
> > > It may play into the *claims* of Noni, but not because there's
> any
> > > real evidence that Noni products cure diseases brought on by
> Western
> > > lifestyle. There are many factors that can result in better
> health
> > > than that of people who live the way we do.
> > >
> > > How does the lifestyle of natives of south Pacific islands
> compare
> > > with the health of native Americans before the influence of
> European
> > > culture? There might be a decent comparison there.
> >
> > That is true, but I still feel dirty posting anything that could
> be
> > twisted or used to say a group of crooks like the Noni people.
> >
> > > Japan is a great example of how Western influence has impacted
> the
> > > health of a nation.
> > >
> > > The relative good health of native islanders is probably more a
> > > condemnation of our Western diet and lifestyle than an
> endorsement of
> > > Noni Juice. It should be no surprise that they can live on the
> > > stuff. But as we all know, extraordinary claims require
> extraordinary
> > > proof. And curative claims like those of Noni reps are
> extraordinary.
> >
> > Yes, it's only one part of an overall lifestyle and it's also
> important
> > to remember, they're not drinking Noni. They're drinking the
> straight
> > juices.
> >
> > Heyerdahl made some interesting points in the book about how the
> natives
> > had adapted to the ways of nature. While it's not a diet issue,
> one
> > point was that they knew where to put their villages to avoid
> mosquitos
> > and other issues. They paid attention to little things like where
> the
> > breeze was the strongest and how to avoid parasites and other
> problems
> > Heyerdahl and his wife ran into by just blundering in and thinking
> they
> > knew what they were doing. They thought the native huts were
> flimsy
> > and in an area vulnerable to the strong winds, so they built their
> > house out of different materials back in the woods. It ended up
> > stinking and rotting, plus they were invaded by mosquitos.
> >
> > To me, that's an example of the different lifestyles and how one
> group
> > had learned to live with nature but "civilized" people fight
> nature at
> > every step of the way. It helps those living there.
> >
> > That's also one of the reasons people buy into the lies the Noni
> people
> > tell. We all have this image of non-advanced civilizations living
> with
> > nature and learning from it. It's the Noble Savage (remember that
> one
> > from Literature class?). We have this innate trust that if it's
> > natural and known by some kind of native tribe it's true.
> >
> > Yes, the natives know a lot that we've forgotten, but that doesn't
> mean
> > Noni is one of their secrets.
> >
> > Hal
> >
>
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