When i did my search, I came up with two links that I think would be
credible to the general eye. One was a CBS News video that
basically called them liars for all the health claims they made.
The other was a health journal that suggested that Noni "could" have
contributed to some liver damage of two different patients.
Knowing that my hubby in particular will beieve news stories at
least to some extent, and that he would be at least a bit concerned
with what a health journal says, I sent him those two links. He
recently had some pains that he thought were his liver (it wasn't),
so that is still fresh in his mind.
We'll see if anything happens from this point.
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
> On Thursday 15 November 2007, paine_wwweb_
> > > Yes, it does play into the claims by Noni...
> >
> > It may play into the *claims* of Noni, but not because there's
any
> > real evidence that Noni products cure diseases brought on by
Western
> > lifestyle. There are many factors that can result in better
health
> > than that of people who live the way we do.
> >
> > How does the lifestyle of natives of south Pacific islands
compare
> > with the health of native Americans before the influence of
European
> > culture? There might be a decent comparison there.
>
> That is true, but I still feel dirty posting anything that could
be
> twisted or used to say a group of crooks like the Noni people.
>
> > Japan is a great example of how Western influence has impacted
the
> > health of a nation.
> >
> > The relative good health of native islanders is probably more a
> > condemnation of our Western diet and lifestyle than an
endorsement of
> > Noni Juice. It should be no surprise that they can live on the
> > stuff. But as we all know, extraordinary claims require
extraordinary
> > proof. And curative claims like those of Noni reps are
extraordinary.
>
> Yes, it's only one part of an overall lifestyle and it's also
important
> to remember, they're not drinking Noni. They're drinking the
straight
> juices.
>
> Heyerdahl made some interesting points in the book about how the
natives
> had adapted to the ways of nature. While it's not a diet issue,
one
> point was that they knew where to put their villages to avoid
mosquitos
> and other issues. They paid attention to little things like where
the
> breeze was the strongest and how to avoid parasites and other
problems
> Heyerdahl and his wife ran into by just blundering in and thinking
they
> knew what they were doing. They thought the native huts were
flimsy
> and in an area vulnerable to the strong winds, so they built their
> house out of different materials back in the woods. It ended up
> stinking and rotting, plus they were invaded by mosquitos.
>
> To me, that's an example of the different lifestyles and how one
group
> had learned to live with nature but "civilized" people fight
nature at
> every step of the way. It helps those living there.
>
> That's also one of the reasons people buy into the lies the Noni
people
> tell. We all have this image of non-advanced civilizations living
with
> nature and learning from it. It's the Noble Savage (remember that
one
> from Literature class?). We have this innate trust that if it's
> natural and known by some kind of native tribe it's true.
>
> Yes, the natives know a lot that we've forgotten, but that doesn't
mean
> Noni is one of their secrets.
>
> Hal
>
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