You mean TEAM as in "Team of Destiny"? If so, you're right to be
suspicious. I was involved in one of their sister companies a few
years ago, and at my very last recruiting meeting, I remember hearing
my upline Emerald talk about wanting to follow T.O.D.'s business
model... which sent a chill up my spine because, only weeks earlier,
I'd read an article on Scott Larsen's web site refering to Team of
Destiny as a pyramid scheme.
Still, TEAM at least mentioned SOMETHING about retail figures in their
presentation of "The Plan" (even if their expected sales figures were
low), whereas OUR group gave us the old "buy from yourself" business
model that has been giving AmWay (sorry, I mean Quixtar) such a bad name.
Funny, I've complained very loudly about much less deceptive tactics
than Quixtar's yet dared not utter so much as a word against my
line-of-sponsorship until I'd been inactive for almost two years.
Then, one year, I kind of "forgot" to renew... actually, I didn't
forget; I decided to use the money for more meaningful purposes and
sent it to the Pyramid Scheme Alert, an organization that I used to
hate because I thought they were trying to destroy my dreams...
Then I realized there are other ways to realize your dreams than
through MLM. Margie, you might want to tell that to your friend...
though I can't guarantee he/she will listen because these AMOs (or
should I call them QMOs?) tend to have a very strong hold over the
people in them. I was never a hard-core IBO, but I saw the effects it
was having on some of my friends who were... plus, I have a cousin
who's now involved in a different MLM.
Fortunately, it's not AmWay, but I'm still suspicious; I've had so
many bad experiences with these "business opportunities" which never
seem to work. She managed to build her business to a high level, too,
and while I'm happy for her success I had butterflies in my stomach
when she told me she'd just quit her job. I'm afraid to tell her what
I REALLY think of the whole MLM business... and I'm hoping, for her
sake, that Arbonne is different from the MLMs I was involved with.
All made the same promises of easy wealth, only to create the same
financial losses. In some, I lost more money than others, but I don't
want to sound like I'm complaining. My friends who'd recruited me
suffered much, much worse... which is why I'm worried about my cousin,
because it seems that the higher people advance in an MLM the more
trouble they get into...
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<xxfarmhandxx@
>
> Hello All, this discussion about the "Tool system" being optional is
> interesting. I was in Diamonds Jack & Effie Reid's group under
> Canadian Emerald Sandy King from 1995 til 2000. We were directly told
> many times not waste any time on downline that were not fully on the
> system. Likewise no-one upline would give you the time of day if you
> were not spending big bucks on tools, functions, and rallies.
> The "System" optional? I don't think so. Regards, Trevor Hunt
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> <margiejames@
> >
> > Well, that's to bad...I think it is always helpful to have the
> inside info that most IBO's do NOT think you have...and even though
> they believe it all to be forthright and honest, when you know it
> they way they are taught (from their particular group) you have more
> of a chance do battle with the double think they use.
> >
> > My friend told me that the system was ok, BECAUSE it was
> optional. I said to her, NO, it wasn't...then I said...well,
> technically it is but in reality it isn't. She said, what? I said,
> Is success optional? You don't think, so do you? The average IBO
> believes that success is only possible with the system, so...you are
> holding two contradictory thoughts at the same time and believe both
> of them to be true...NOT possible. I call that double think. The
> tools are optional, but with out them you don't have success, and why
> be involved if you don't want to succeed. So then, tools are not
> optional.
> >
> > I was in a cult until I was 33 years old, The Jehovah's
> Witnesses, and I know, very well, about "double think". My life was
> filled with it. Sad thing is she knows all about what I went through
> and she can't see the similarities. But the phase, "double think",
> is a term I have used frequently when referring to my past. When I
> used it to describe what she was doing, she did take note. That is
> why knowing the inner stuff allows you to figure out the double think
> ahead of time and turn it around so that they are faced with the
> contradictions.
> >
> > If you ever do get a hold of one of those manuals, please keep
> me in mind. Good luck with you endeavors to free your sister, I have
> followed you postings about you trials with your sister. I will keep
> you in my prayers.
> >
> > Blessings, Margie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: peripheral_jen
> > To: mlmsurvivorsclub@
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:42 PM
> > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [MLM Survivors Club] Re: Interesting
> info from TEAM manual-throw up some red flags why don't you?
> >
> >
> > Margie,
> >
> > I wish I could do that for you, but unfortunately I don't have my
> own
> > copy. I am a non-active, openly skeptical IBO, so I am pretty
> sure I
> > am not supposed to really even look at that book. My sister went
> out
> > for awhile and I saw it and took a look, and the stuff I posted
> were
> > key things that i copied down onto a piece of paper and brought
> home
> > with me. If I ever can get a hold of one I will definitely
> remember
> > you and do anything I can to get you a copy. Anything to get
> someone
> > out!
> >
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a best friend mixed up in Team, I would love, if you
> have
> > > the manual yourself, to get a photo copy of the manual. I would
> pay
> > > you for your trouble. I would like to be able to get inside
> some
> > of
> > > the inner thoughts of this group so I will know what to say
> back to
> > > some of their dribble. What do you say??? Thanks, Margie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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