Yep..... TOD, Team of Destiny, TEAM its all the same thing. The
info I found was that Orrin and Chris broke away from another group
right after Orrin went Diamond. Sometime in 99'. Its still
possible to find Scott's review of TEAM on the web. I found it and
have read the whole thing many times. The "goal" is to get to a
million people. Their numbers right now are somewhere between
100,000 and 150,000 after the other two groups merged with them.
That "OREO" is pretty funny!!! Its true though. Orrin likes to
talk about his place in Florida where he has all the TEAM leaders
come down to to spend time, mentoring and so forth. I sure know
where all of that money came from now.
I don't know anything about Casey Combden. Thats a new name for me.-
-- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
wrote:
>
> Woodward sounds alot like the leader of the Quixtar group I was
> in... and from what I read on the AmQuix web site, Casey Combden
has
> been working quite closely with the TEAM leaders, too. In fact,
my
> upline emerald even expressed plans to follow Team of Destiny's
> business model at my last Quixtar meeting (back in 2003)... which
> raised alot of red flags because I had just read Scott's
review, "Is
> Team of Destiny a Pyramid Scheme?"
>
> The page was taken down not much later, when Woodward sued him
> (which wouldn't surprise most critics). As for Casey, well, I'm
> sure Larsen will be more than happy to give you the scoop on his
> divorce and all the damage THAT did to his business... though I
have
> a feeling some of my friends saw it coming long before NBC
> Dateline. We weren't allowed to talk about it, though, because
such
> information would have been considered "negative".
>
> But here's what I was able to piece together from what my sponsors
> told me. By the end of 2003, there were already dissensions among
> our upline... at least two of whom had been attempting to resolve
a
> complaint through the corporation, who did absolutely nothing to
> help them. Their complaint, of course, was about the usual
economic
> losses that are typical in an MLM group -- or at least most of the
> groups I was in -- though at the time I was too caught up in the
> Quixtar dream to really understand what was happening.
>
> It took three years of inactivity in the business to finally open
my
> eyes. Ever so slowly, what people were saying on the Net made
sense
> to me, answering all those questions about what had been happening
> in the group that had seemed to be doing so well when I joined,
only
> to fall apart within my first year as an IBO... like most Quixtar
> failures, I thought it was my own fault, though most of the
fingers
> were being pointed at our upline gold, who was probably no more
than
> a puppet to the REAL bad guys in the Biz...
>
> After finally putting my number to rest, I was amused to read the
> latest review on Team of Destiny (now known simply as TEAM), which
> has also been nicknamed OREO -- "Orrin Rips Everybody Off!"
>
> On the other hand, it is probably not so amusing to those who've
> been caught up in it. Margie, once again, I wish you luck getting
> your friend out of OREO... I mean TEAM...
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> wrote:
> >
> > Oh man........ Did I miss some things in the last week. Margie,
I
> > have that same book Jen is talking about. I've read it front to
> > back. One really starts to think about what they read after
> reading
> > other peoples thoughts on the book. I at first didn't give the
> book
> > much thought thinking this is what I need to read to be
sucessfull
> > in the business, figuring these were the things I needed to know
> and
> > do to make it. Then after doing alot of research on-line and
> > discovering that Orrin and Chris really got their start in Amway
> and
> > realizing that all the crap that they have been preaching is the
> > same stuff from 20 years ago it really made me angry, upset that
I
> > had gotten myself into such a group.
> >
> > I was lead to believe that "they" formed this new business by
> > combining the 3 hottest trends today. You know, internet,
> > distribution and franchising. What a load of CRAP! Quixtar is
> just
> > Amway on the internet. Orrin and Chris didn't form ANYTHING. I
> was
> > also lead to believe that Quixtar was "just" our shopping
portal,
> > again another line of deception. It just makes me mad to think
> > about it. You know what they are saying now? That Orrin
Woodward
> > is the next "Sam Walton" of the internet. Orrin is the one who
> came
> > up with this great business model. I was at the last major
> > convention in March, during the time I was really starting to
find
> > out about TEAM. My wife and I went anyways because 1. we had
> > already paid for the tickets and 2. we weren't driving. It was
> just
> > a small group of us because we were a long distance group from a
> > team in Wisconsin ( I'm in PA ). It was hard for me to believe
> how
> > so many of the people and so called leaders on stage were giving
> > praise to Orrin stating he is the "Sam Walton" of the internet.
> > They practically worship this guy. BUT, not once do they ever
say
> > were or how Orrin and Chris got their start. I had to search
alot
> > to find out myself.
> >
> > The TEAM Handbook is about 3/4" thick and I'd like to help
anyone
> > out who would like to see/read some of it. I'm currently trying
> to
> > recoup some of the money we spent on tools, so I'm not ready to
> give
> > away any of the books yet. I'm still waiting to hear back from
> our
> > local leaders. If that doesn't work, I'm goin to the Platinum
in
> > Wisconsin.
> >
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> > <nascarfan546@
> > >
> > > Margie,
> > >
> > > I wish I could do that for you, but unfortunately I don't have
> my
> > own
> > > copy. I am a non-active, openly skeptical IBO, so I am pretty
> > sure I
> > > am not supposed to really even look at that book. My sister
> went
> > out
> > > for awhile and I saw it and took a look, and the stuff I
posted
> > were
> > > key things that i copied down onto a piece of paper and
brought
> > home
> > > with me. If I ever can get a hold of one I will definitely
> > remember
> > > you and do anything I can to get you a copy. Anything to get
> > someone
> > > out!
> > >
> > > Best wishes.
> > >
> > > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> <margiejames@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have a best friend mixed up in Team, I would love, if
you
> > have
> > > > the manual yourself, to get a photo copy of the manual. I
> would
> > pay
> > > > you for your trouble. I would like to be able to get inside
> > some
> > > of
> > > > the inner thoughts of this group so I will know what to say
> back
> > to
> > > > some of their dribble. What do you say??? Thanks, Margie
> > >
> >
>
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