Woodward sounds alot like the leader of the Quixtar group I was
in... and from what I read on the AmQuix web site, Casey Combden has
been working quite closely with the TEAM leaders, too. In fact, my
upline emerald even expressed plans to follow Team of Destiny's
business model at my last Quixtar meeting (back in 2003)... which
raised alot of red flags because I had just read Scott's review, "Is
Team of Destiny a Pyramid Scheme?"
The page was taken down not much later, when Woodward sued him
(which wouldn't surprise most critics). As for Casey, well, I'm
sure Larsen will be more than happy to give you the scoop on his
divorce and all the damage THAT did to his business... though I have
a feeling some of my friends saw it coming long before NBC
Dateline. We weren't allowed to talk about it, though, because such
information would have been considered "negative".
But here's what I was able to piece together from what my sponsors
told me. By the end of 2003, there were already dissensions among
our upline... at least two of whom had been attempting to resolve a
complaint through the corporation, who did absolutely nothing to
help them. Their complaint, of course, was about the usual economic
losses that are typical in an MLM group -- or at least most of the
groups I was in -- though at the time I was too caught up in the
Quixtar dream to really understand what was happening.
It took three years of inactivity in the business to finally open my
eyes. Ever so slowly, what people were saying on the Net made sense
to me, answering all those questions about what had been happening
in the group that had seemed to be doing so well when I joined, only
to fall apart within my first year as an IBO... like most Quixtar
failures, I thought it was my own fault, though most of the fingers
were being pointed at our upline gold, who was probably no more than
a puppet to the REAL bad guys in the Biz...
After finally putting my number to rest, I was amused to read the
latest review on Team of Destiny (now known simply as TEAM), which
has also been nicknamed OREO -- "Orrin Rips Everybody Off!"
On the other hand, it is probably not so amusing to those who've
been caught up in it. Margie, once again, I wish you luck getting
your friend out of OREO... I mean TEAM...
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
wrote:
>
> Oh man........ Did I miss some things in the last week. Margie, I
> have that same book Jen is talking about. I've read it front to
> back. One really starts to think about what they read after
reading
> other peoples thoughts on the book. I at first didn't give the
book
> much thought thinking this is what I need to read to be sucessfull
> in the business, figuring these were the things I needed to know
and
> do to make it. Then after doing alot of research on-line and
> discovering that Orrin and Chris really got their start in Amway
and
> realizing that all the crap that they have been preaching is the
> same stuff from 20 years ago it really made me angry, upset that I
> had gotten myself into such a group.
>
> I was lead to believe that "they" formed this new business by
> combining the 3 hottest trends today. You know, internet,
> distribution and franchising. What a load of CRAP! Quixtar is
just
> Amway on the internet. Orrin and Chris didn't form ANYTHING. I
was
> also lead to believe that Quixtar was "just" our shopping portal,
> again another line of deception. It just makes me mad to think
> about it. You know what they are saying now? That Orrin Woodward
> is the next "Sam Walton" of the internet. Orrin is the one who
came
> up with this great business model. I was at the last major
> convention in March, during the time I was really starting to find
> out about TEAM. My wife and I went anyways because 1. we had
> already paid for the tickets and 2. we weren't driving. It was
just
> a small group of us because we were a long distance group from a
> team in Wisconsin ( I'm in PA ). It was hard for me to believe
how
> so many of the people and so called leaders on stage were giving
> praise to Orrin stating he is the "Sam Walton" of the internet.
> They practically worship this guy. BUT, not once do they ever say
> were or how Orrin and Chris got their start. I had to search alot
> to find out myself.
>
> The TEAM Handbook is about 3/4" thick and I'd like to help anyone
> out who would like to see/read some of it. I'm currently trying
to
> recoup some of the money we spent on tools, so I'm not ready to
give
> away any of the books yet. I'm still waiting to hear back from
our
> local leaders. If that doesn't work, I'm goin to the Platinum in
> Wisconsin.
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> <nascarfan546@
> >
> > Margie,
> >
> > I wish I could do that for you, but unfortunately I don't have
my
> own
> > copy. I am a non-active, openly skeptical IBO, so I am pretty
> sure I
> > am not supposed to really even look at that book. My sister
went
> out
> > for awhile and I saw it and took a look, and the stuff I posted
> were
> > key things that i copied down onto a piece of paper and brought
> home
> > with me. If I ever can get a hold of one I will definitely
> remember
> > you and do anything I can to get you a copy. Anything to get
> someone
> > out!
> >
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<margiejames@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a best friend mixed up in Team, I would love, if you
> have
> > > the manual yourself, to get a photo copy of the manual. I
would
> pay
> > > you for your trouble. I would like to be able to get inside
> some
> > of
> > > the inner thoughts of this group so I will know what to say
back
> to
> > > some of their dribble. What do you say??? Thanks, Margie
> >
>
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