On Thursday 31 May 2007, momluvseliana wrote:
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "Vicki" <v_eller@...> wrote:
> > I know this is going to sound mean, but it goes back to some recent
> > posts about comunication...
> >
> > Based on how your cousin writes, I would NEVER put any trust in
> > anything that she has to say. If she speaks anything like she
>
> writes,
>
> > she comes across as a very ignorant and uneducated person. I would
> > ask myself if she even understands the words that are coming out of
> > her mouth.
> >
> > Communication is key in any endeavor. Why do people not understand
> > that?????
>
> I am not too hurt about the loss because she is actually the niece of
> my aunt's husband. We were not that close until recently. My aunt
> told me to start hanging out with her because she was somewhat of a
> loner and we have kids that are around the same age.
There may be some good reasons she's a loner and you might be learning
those reasons right now.
> The thing that
> hurts is that I know that I am a good friend. And that is what I was
> to her. I knew of how f'd up her family was and thought she was
> different because she kept telling me she was different.
If she has to keep telling you, then she realizes, down inside, that she
isn't.
> I was
> always telling her that I was praying for her and her family and her
> situations. And I really was. One thing about me is that I really
> don't care for women drama, (I am more like one of the guys) But I
> really wanted to be a good friend to her and listen and give advice.
> Trust me it was emotionally draining, listnening to her life story
> and problems. I felt so bad for her. (She does have a lot of
> issues)
A big "trick" here is to get the sense of whether she is dealing with
her issues or is complaining. Does she keep letting more and more
happen to her, or does she try to act to make things better? Bad
things happen to all of us, the difference is in whether we let those
things become excuses or whether we stand up with pride and find ways
past the steaming, stinking piles that life drops in our way.
> So it is sad to me that she is being made an MLM victim. My
> husband and I keep thinking that wow, they caught the perfect fish,
> hook, line, and sinker. She is a stay at home mom (with no skills
> that I know of), her husband makes average money, and I think she has
> bipolar disorder also, because she says it runs in her family. I
> have nothing against being a stay at home mom, because I currently I
> am one. But I am home because I can't find a good job with my degree
> and my record for the time being. I have talked to her about
> possible at home jobs such as babysitting, jewelry making, cake
> making, etc. but she never seemed interested, and that is also what
> my aunt says about her.
It sounds more like she's interested in having a job that provides
income but not in having a job that means she'll have to work. A lot
of MLMs do admit they take work, but they exchange that for status
by "love bombing" and making the person feel important. It helps rope
in those who think highly of themselves and don't feel they should have
to work their way up to be recognized.
> And she won't get a job, because she does
> not trust day care.
Translation: She's too lazy to work and this is her permanent "fall
back" excuse that will always keep her from needing to go out and work.
I would not have said that based on that comment alone, but in context,
it seems so.
As a former teacher, especially one working in special ed who saw so
many different kids with so many issues, she is probably doing more
damage to her kids if she keeps them at home and doesn't get them
involved in other activities (does she get them to participate in
outside groups) than if she sent them to any day care.
> Well the point of this was to ask the question,
> are there certain types of
> personalities or characters that can be easily manipulated by MLM's?
Oh, yes. She's a prime target and I suspect, from what you've told us,
that one reason is because she thinks quite highly of herself and she's
fallen into their, "You're great, we'll make you rich" trap.
> Besides being ignorant and uneducated? (I know education is not an
> issue because a lot of people have common sense without a degree.)
Any conman will tell you it's easier to con an intelligent person than
a "dumb" person. (Translate dumb however you want.) That can apply to
level of education as well.
> Who is most likely to be atrracted to MLM's, the lazy, the poor, the
> proud? Or can anyone easily be a victim because MLM's are that good
> at what they do?
I'd say the proud who are too proud to start at a realistic level and
earn respect as they move up in their company.
On the other hand, anyone can be a victim if the MLM can see how to
punch their buttons.
Hal