Saturday, May 26, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Goji Berries, Noni, Moringa?

Ah, "TROLLING" for fish like bitch_n_pack? :@P I don't think so! Haha!
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, momluvseliana <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I have not yet looked up the word trolling, but it sounds like something I did not intend
to
> do. I guess the point of this post was to ask if some of the products actually work or if
> they are all bogus like the MLM system itself. It just crossed my mind that if the product
> really worked then more people would fall for the scheme. I was thinking, how about if
> this did become something that we all needed, would this tempt us to join? Yes I cut
and
> pasted those supporters straight from their site, trying to ask the question: If all this
> support is true, would a lot more people fall for it, or are they falling for it because of
this?
> Are MLM's allowed to make bogus claims? I guess they are because people are falling
for
> it everyday right? I am also starting to watch those Goji videos with those crazy people.
I
> am pretty sure there are more videos out there. So from what i have been learning
from
> this site is that MLM's will do and say anything. Another thing is that i'm not really into
> vitamins and miracle cures and holistic stuff anyway. I have just recently been
introduced
> to this world and how people become crazy fanatics, like that goji video. All that stuff is
> really weird and NEW to me. So please don't think that i am deceivingly trying to
promote
> MLM's, especially this stupid one that my cousin is doing. I guess i have learned that
> everyone here does not want to hear it because they have heard it all before. No offense
> taken, I know what you mean about "your point can be made without PUMPING the MLM
Pr
> methinks."
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "Mick Wenlock" <mickwenlock@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > No offense intended but I have to say I feel like this is trolling -
> > why do you have to relay all this bogus waffle from this MLM? I
> > personally don't care what lists they have.
> >
> > Your point can be made without pumping the MLM PR methinks.
> >
> > Mick
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, momluvseliana <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > While I was pulling my hair about whether I would help my cousin by
> > > buying the expensive product and perhaps getting a discount by being
> > > a distributor, I researched the main ingredient, the Moringa oleifera
> > > tree. Being the "educated"(brushing shoulders off) college grad that
> > > I am, I looked to peer reviewed scientific journals. There was a lot
> > > of impressive stuff about it (complete from A to Zinc, antioxidants,
> > > all amino acids, etc, etc) it seemed the claims that Zija were making
> > > were true. It even impressd me because the product seemed to have
> > > many supporters including UNICEF...
> > > Africa Eco Foundation
> > > African and Hindustani Centers of Diversity
> > > African Conservation Foundation
> > > Africast Foundation
> > > AGADA - Alternative Action for African Development
> > > Agricultural Developments South America
> > > Agriculture Mission Fellowship, Taiwan
> > > Agroforestry Net, Inc.
> > > Agrotech Co. Ltd., Sudan
> > > ALMS - Ark of Life Ministries, Zambia
> > > ANAMED - Action for Natural Medicine, Germany
> > > Andrew W. Mellon Foundation
> > > Apostolic Womens' Movement, Ghana
> > > Association of Farmers, Educators and Traders, Gambia
> > > Association pour la Santé Préventive de Rosso, Mauritania
> > > AVRDC-The World Vegetable Center Works
> > > BHD - Biotechnology for Human Development
> > > Binga Foods and Nutritional Committee, Binga District Hospital,
> > > Zimbabwe
> > > Binga Trees Trust Project
> > > BIOMASA - Honenheim University
> > > British Overseas Development Agency
> > > CADEC - Catholic Development Commission
> > > Canada - Micronutrient Initiatives
> > > CDE - Centre for Development and Enterprise, South Africa
> > > CEEM - Christian Ecology and Development Ministry, India
> > > Center for Cross-Cultural Epidemiologic Studies, Drew University
> > > Chaoyang University of Technology, Taiwan
> > > Christian Family Agric. Ministry, Ghana
> > > CID - Center for International Development
> > > Compagnie Commerciale de Mumuri S.A., Burundi
> > > Companeros en Ministerio/Partners in Ministry, Mexico
> > > CRDA - Christian Relief and Development Association
> > > CTA - Technical Centre for Agricultural and Rural Cooperation,
> > > Netherlands, West Indies and Western Samoa
> > > CWS - Church World Service
> > > CWS/Crop Walk
> > > DART - Development Alternatives, Research and Training, Nigeria
> > > EBCEF - Ethiopian Books for Children and Educational Foundation
> > > ECHO - Education Concerns for Hunger Organization, Inc.
> > > Ecological Internet, Inc. - Forests.org
> > > Environment Africa
> > > FAO - Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations
> > > Federal Ministry of Health, Nigeria
> > > Feed the Children, Uganda
> > > Gambia National Nutrition Agency and Council
> > > Gambia United National Environment Programme
> > > German Development Services
> > > German-Ethiopian Association
> > > GIANT - Global Initiative for AIDS Nutritional Therapy
> > > Global Facilitation Unit for Underutilized Species
> > > GLOW Ministries International, Haiti
> > > GoodWorks International LLC - UN Ambassador Andrew Young's Foundation
> > > Government of the Philippines, National Nutrition Council
> > > Grace In Motion Ministries, Brazil
> > > Groupe de Recherche et d'Actions pour un Développement Durable, Benin
> > > Happy Farmers Maun, Botswana
> > > Harold Martin Botanic Garden, University of Leicester, England
> > > Heifer International Foundation - Global Food Crisis Fund
> > > HIMCON - Himalayan Consortium for Himalayan Conversation
> > > IDEE-Casamance, NGO, Senegal
> > > India National Institute of Nutrition, Indian Council of Medical
> > > Research
> > > INERA - Institut de l'Environnement et des Recherches Agricoles
> > > International Eye Foundation
> > > International Moringa Network
> > > International Trypanotolerance Centre
> > > Japan Moringa Association
> > > Kenya Forestry Research Institute
> > > KMTC Agricultural Training Centre
> > > Kyoto City, Japan - Water Purification Project
> > > Lutheran World Federation, Dept. for World Service, Mauritania
> > > Mahasarakham University, Thailand
> > > Médecins Aux Pieds Nus
> > > Mercy Ships
> > > Ministry of the Atmosphere and Natural Resources
> > > Missouri Botanical Gardens, Washington University, St. Louis,
> > > Missouri
> > > Mlup Baitong, NGO, Cambodia
> > > Moringa Energie Developpement SA, Senegal
> > > Moringa Garden Circle
> > > Moringa Research Agency, Kenya
> > > NANA - National Nutrition Agency
> > > National Agricultural Research Center, Saudi, Arabia
> > > National Council of Churches USA
> > > National Geographic Society
> > > National Science Foundation
> > > New GENESIS, Haiti
> > > New York Botanical Garden, Botanical Science Research and Training
> > > Office International de l'Eau, France
> > > One Spirit, USA
> > > Optima of Africa
> > > Peace Corps
> > > Permacultora Dominicana, Dominican Republic
> > > Phytotrade Africa
> > > Prek Leap National School of Agriculture, Cambodia
> > > Presbyterian Church of the Sudan
> > > PROPAGE - Association pour la Promotion des Ressources Végétales des
> > > Régions arides et Semi Arides, France
> > > Public Authority of Agriculture Affairs and Fish Resources - Forestry
> > > and Range Dept., Kuwait
> > > Purdue University, Center for New Crops & Plants Products
> > > Rotary Club
> > > RUAF - Resource Centre on Urban Agriculture & Forestry
> > > Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew, England
> > > Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
> > > Rural Women's Movement, South Africa
> > > Sehgal Foundation, India
> > > Shakuntala Bidyadhar Trust
> > > Silva Forest Foundation
> > > Stoneleigh, Shroshire, England
> > > The Berkeley Reafforestation Trust
> > > The Center for the Improvement of Human Functioning International
> > > Togo Nature Environment
> > > Tokyo University of Agriculture, Department of Nutritional Science,
> > > Japan
> > > Trees for Africa
> > > Trees for Life Moringa Project
> > > TULUM Ltd.
> > > UNICEF
> > > United Methodist Committee on Relief
> > > United Nations World Food Program
> > > UNESCO - United Nations Educational, Social, and Cultural
> > > Organization
> > > Universidade de Fortaleza, Brazil
> > > Université Abdou Moumouni, Niger
> > > Université Cadi Ayad-faculté des Sciences Semlalia, Maroc
> > > Universite Cheikh Anta diop de Dakar, Senegal Laboratory of
> > > Nutritional Physiological Chemistry
> > > Université d'Abomey-Calavi, Benin
> > > University of Baroda, Vadodara, Gujarat, India
> > > University of Botswana
> > > University of Dschang, FASA, Cameroon
> > > University of Ghana, Biochemistry Department
> > > University of Hawaii - CTAHR
> > > University of Kansas School of Medicine
> > > University of Leicester, England
> > > University of Stellenbosch, Dpt of Physiological Studies, South
> > > Africa
> > > University of the South Pacific, Suva, Fiji Islands
> > > University of Wageningen, Division of Human Nutrition
> > > U. S. Agency for International Development
> > > U.S. Dept. of Agriculture, Forest Service - NFTA
> > > Wangari Maathai Foundation
> > > WECADI - Wakiso Environment Conservation and Development Initiative,
> > > Uganda
> > > WAECHE -Williams Adedayo Enter Community Health Evangelism, Nigeria
> > > West Indies Self Help WISH Mission, Haiti
> > > World Vision
> > > World Water Forum
> > > Zimbabwe Forestry Commission
> > > Zimbabwe Rural District Council
> > >
> > > It impressed me because supposedly this "miracle tree" is being fed
> > > to the starving people of the world.
> > > My question is... Is it ok for me to believe in this tree? Shoot I
> > > want to live long and prevent cancer. That damn drink was way too
> > > expensive. ( I had to tell my cousin that it would be a luxury for
> > > me to get auto-shipment of that crappy juice, so that she wouldn't
> > > feel bad. But she hates me anyway because I told her that they sell
> > > the tree (pods, flowers, leaves, powdered, and even seeds to grow in
> > > your own backyard) at my local Asian supermarket. And there is a
> > > farm growing that stuff locally here in San Diego.) I told her about
> > > it and I think that is what pushed her over the edge to hate
> > > me. "You didn't do the research, didn't you know that cooking it
> > > will strip it of it's nutrients?" I said that I would eat it as a
> > > salad. She said it would be too bitter. I said I am going to grow
> > > one in my backyard. She said it won't grow here. She said, the
> > > drink is formulated JUST RIGHT, so you absorb ALL the nutrients.
> > > Dude, I am a fitness, nutrition, and health major. I told my Aunt
> > > about our fight... I told her I was no longer going to debate with
> > > her because I felt like I was in the boxing ring with a
> > > quadraplegic. (please don't take offense, I hope you get the point)
> > > I think this is a really good SCAM, let me know what you think? Zija
> > > International
> > > www.drinklifein.com
> > > Thanks for letting me vent again!
> > >
> >
>

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