On Thursday 31 May 2007, Dawn _ wrote:
> I just want to clarify that that e-mail (in all caps below that
> mulluvseliana posted) was NOT from me (Dawn). I have no idea who
> wrote it. FYI: My father is disabled and has never owned any
> businesses. I'm not sure who's post that was, but I just want to make
> sure you realize it wasn't mine.
>
> Also, I was not attacking Hal's character when I asked about him
> having kids. I was simply trying to explain (if you read the context
> within which this question was asked) the reason for MY being in an
> MLM, and asking him if he could relate to the fact that part of the
> reason I need to make extra money is to help support my children and
> my family. This isn't something that someone without children (or,
> say, someone who doesn't have others to care for and provide for,
> such as aging parents, etc.) can relate to, and I was trying to make
> the point that maybe that's why Hal couldn't identify with my need to
> make extra money for that reason. It was never intended as a personal
> attack. And Hal, if you took it that way, I apologize.
You have one point, but the context in which you made the argument is
what makes it ad hominem. The focus was on different topics and such a
statement 1) diverted attention from the points that were being made
(you generally avoid my points instead of responding to them), and 2)
was making the point that I was not in a place to judge MLMs. The
focus was more on MLMs, not your choice to get in one instead of
finding other work. For example, my choice was to start a non-MLM
business that let me work from home. I inventoried my skills, worked
out what was possible, tried to do something with what I could and kept
my eyes open and grabbed the first opportunity that came along that let
me use my skills for success.
Another point is that you know almost nothing about me. I could make
the point that you can't identify with my needs because my Father died
without a will and all his money is tied up in probate and I have to
keep my income going because I'm the only one in our family right now
with any income to take care of her and a relative who is helping her
with the paperwork and everything else -- as well as us all coping with
my Father's death after several years of leukemia.
Notice I have mentioned that in the group before, but not as a
validation of my choices or as an excuse for my actions or what I've
been writing (actually I pointed out that was why I was not able to
respond to help someone).
We all have needs for extra money or for time for different reasons.
One person's reasons are no reason to think another person doesn't have
similar problems under different situations.
Essentially, bringing it up was changing the topic and resorting to, "I
know things you can't know, so I can be wrong and you can be right."
To be honest, I'm just too tired now to bother even looking up what
fallacy that falls under.
Hal
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