Monday, May 28, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Ever tried Bio Lean II? Leave an Amazon.com Review!

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, "cstargio" <cstargio@...>
wrote:
>
> I was merely asking for reviews on the product Hal. Not a defense
> statement for Amazon. I simply said they "...broke my trust and
> confidence".. meaning that I now feel like I'm the one that has to
> scrutinize anything I buy from their site as they obviously don't.
> Do you see anywhere in my post where I even tried to discourage
> people from using Amazon because they're the culprit here? No!!!!
>
> And Yes, I did say in my post I expect positive reviews. Do you
> have a problem with that? I thought this whole group was about
> looking about positive and negative aspects of MLMs. Isn't that
why
> some proMLMers are allowed here? Isn't it healthy to see both
sides
> and, as a logically thinking adult, use what fits your own personal
> values?
>
> As an open-minded individual, I take both positive and negative
> product reviews and use "what makes sense" given the product and
the
> promise.
>
> Guess I'm not going to be able to read posts from this group as I
> try to enjoy my own morning mug. Makes my blood boil when somebody
> takes something and turns it in to another cause. How did a
request
> for Bio Lean II reviews become a review on Amazon? Can't see
> anywhere in my post where I asked "why" Amazon does what they do.
> Yes, Hal, I understand that a business with projected revenues
close
> to 14 billion this year that does business solely on-line doesn't
> have time to go over every listing. Did I say anywhere that they
> did, should or could? No. I understood all that from the
beginning.
>
> Now, product reviews on Bio Lean II anyone?
>
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, Hal Vaughan <hal@> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday 27 May 2007, cstargio wrote:
> > > I've been a fan of amazon.com for a number of years. This
> afternoon,
> > > they broke my trust and confidence. Searching for a book my
> husband
> > > wanted, I ran across Bio Lean II. A product I "used" to sell
and
> > > one, quite frankly, that made a lot of my friends quite upset.
> It's
> > > advertised as an "Ephedra-Free Dietary Supplement" but the
> people I
> > > sampled it out to either gained weight or just felt a little
> extra
> > > jittery from the added caffeine.
> >
> > I wouldn't hold that against Amazon. They can't scan every
> product for
> > things like what company makes it and so on. To a certain
extent,
> they
> > have to rely on the honesty of the seller when documenting the
> product
> > and on the feedback from buyers. In the long run that can
balance
> > itself out, but in this case, I'm sure you can expect a lot of
> people
> > who are in the MLM cult to keep feeding it positive feedback to
> counter
> > anything negative.
> >
> > Amazon itself has no way of knowing the company is an MLM or is
> > deceitful. Their only way of knowing something like that is if
it
> is
> > documented and then, to cover themselves from discrimination
> lawsuits,
> > they have to make sure they have a firm case before forcing a
> seller to
> > discontinue a product.
> >
> > Hal
> >
>
Hi, ok i sussed their info, the base product they are using is made
by a food industry biggie that then onsells the product to many
manufacturers..so. the original research on the compound maybe
fine...but...as to what how and how much of what else in the formula,
and how it works...well, they cover butts by saying all are not the
same metabolically..wow, yup.
at 74 usa dollars for 28 days, well i think its pricey! also if your
taking that, eating less, my guess is theres a vitamin?? etc they
will sell also?
actually there are 2 companies arguing patents to this citrus
aurentium product. umm i will find the link.
ok its WWW.NutraIngredients-USA.com Nutratech and Syntec dated
25/05/07
having a dummy spit via lawyers.
way i see it is -spending nearly $80 to loose weight(a month..)....no
brainer. i personally guarantee you Will loose the money...and maybe
a few pounds..stop eating the crap food,drinking hi cal, or synthetic
sodas..(hey you ever notice-skinny people don,t drink diet?? actually
they rarely drink Any carbonateds!) go walkies and use that cash to
buy new clothes. or shoes that make walking nicer! :-)
how about checking the Nutratech?syntech sites for their
(published??) results ie dose , length of trials - double blind -
placebo..what sort of losses do they! claim, compare with bio whatsit!
be an informed consumer.

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