I have not yet looked up the word trolling, but it sounds like something I did not intend to
do. I guess the point of this post was to ask if some of the products actually work or if
they are all bogus like the MLM system itself. It just crossed my mind that if the product
really worked then more people would fall for the scheme. I was thinking, how about if
this did become something that we all needed, would this tempt us to join? Yes I cut and
pasted those supporters straight from their site, trying to ask the question: If all this
support is true, would a lot more people fall for it, or are they falling for it because of this?
Are MLM's allowed to make bogus claims? I guess they are because people are falling for
it everyday right? I am also starting to watch those Goji videos with those crazy people. I
am pretty sure there are more videos out there. So from what i have been learning from
this site is that MLM's will do and say anything. Another thing is that i'm not really into
vitamins and miracle cures and holistic stuff anyway. I have just recently been introduced
to this world and how people become crazy fanatics, like that goji video. All that stuff is
really weird and NEW to me. So please don't think that i am deceivingly trying to promote
MLM's, especially this stupid one that my cousin is doing. I guess i have learned that
everyone here does not want to hear it because they have heard it all before. No offense
taken, I know what you mean about "your point can be made without PUMPING the MLM Pr
methinks."
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
>
> No offense intended but I have to say I feel like this is trolling -
> why do you have to relay all this bogus waffle from this MLM? I
> personally don't care what lists they have.
>
> Your point can be made without pumping the MLM PR methinks.
>
> Mick
>
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> wrote:
> >
> > While I was pulling my hair about whether I would help my cousin by
> > buying the expensive product and perhaps getting a discount by being
> > a distributor, I researched the main ingredient, the Moringa oleifera
> > tree. Being the "educated"(brushing shoulders off) college grad that
> > I am, I looked to peer reviewed scientific journals. There was a lot
> > of impressive stuff about it (complete from A to Zinc, antioxidants,
> > all amino acids, etc, etc) it seemed the claims that Zija were making
> > were true. It even impressd me because the product seemed to have
> > many supporters including UNICEF...
> > Africa Eco Foundation
> > African and Hindustani Centers of Diversity
> > African Conservation Foundation
> > Africast Foundation
> > AGADA - Alternative Action for African Development
> > Agricultural Developments South America
> > Agriculture Mission Fellowship, Taiwan
> > Agroforestry Net, Inc.
> > Agrotech Co. Ltd., Sudan
> > ALMS - Ark of Life Ministries, Zambia
> > ANAMED - Action for Natural Medicine, Germany
> > Andrew W. Mellon Foundation
> > Apostolic Womens' Movement, Ghana
> > Association of Farmers, Educators and Traders, Gambia
> > Association pour la Santé Préventive de Rosso, Mauritania
> > AVRDC-The World Vegetable Center Works
> > BHD - Biotechnology for Human Development
> > Binga Foods and Nutritional Committee, Binga District Hospital,
> > Zimbabwe
> > Binga Trees Trust Project
> > BIOMASA - Honenheim University
> > British Overseas Development Agency
> > CADEC - Catholic Development Commission
> > Canada - Micronutrient Initiatives
> > CDE - Centre for Development and Enterprise, South Africa
> > CEEM - Christian Ecology and Development Ministry, India
> > Center for Cross-Cultural Epidemiologic Studies, Drew University
> > Chaoyang University of Technology, Taiwan
> > Christian Family Agric. Ministry, Ghana
> > CID - Center for International Development
> > Compagnie Commerciale de Mumuri S.A., Burundi
> > Companeros en Ministerio/Partners in Ministry, Mexico
> > CRDA - Christian Relief and Development Association
> > CTA - Technical Centre for Agricultural and Rural Cooperation,
> > Netherlands, West Indies and Western Samoa
> > CWS - Church World Service
> > CWS/Crop Walk
> > DART - Development Alternatives, Research and Training, Nigeria
> > EBCEF - Ethiopian Books for Children and Educational Foundation
> > ECHO - Education Concerns for Hunger Organization, Inc.
> > Ecological Internet, Inc. - Forests.org
> > Environment Africa
> > FAO - Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations
> > Federal Ministry of Health, Nigeria
> > Feed the Children, Uganda
> > Gambia National Nutrition Agency and Council
> > Gambia United National Environment Programme
> > German Development Services
> > German-Ethiopian Association
> > GIANT - Global Initiative for AIDS Nutritional Therapy
> > Global Facilitation Unit for Underutilized Species
> > GLOW Ministries International, Haiti
> > GoodWorks International LLC - UN Ambassador Andrew Young's Foundation
> > Government of the Philippines, National Nutrition Council
> > Grace In Motion Ministries, Brazil
> > Groupe de Recherche et d'Actions pour un Développement Durable, Benin
> > Happy Farmers Maun, Botswana
> > Harold Martin Botanic Garden, University of Leicester, England
> > Heifer International Foundation - Global Food Crisis Fund
> > HIMCON - Himalayan Consortium for Himalayan Conversation
> > IDEE-Casamance, NGO, Senegal
> > India National Institute of Nutrition, Indian Council of Medical
> > Research
> > INERA - Institut de l'Environnement et des Recherches Agricoles
> > International Eye Foundation
> > International Moringa Network
> > International Trypanotolerance Centre
> > Japan Moringa Association
> > Kenya Forestry Research Institute
> > KMTC Agricultural Training Centre
> > Kyoto City, Japan - Water Purification Project
> > Lutheran World Federation, Dept. for World Service, Mauritania
> > Mahasarakham University, Thailand
> > Médecins Aux Pieds Nus
> > Mercy Ships
> > Ministry of the Atmosphere and Natural Resources
> > Missouri Botanical Gardens, Washington University, St. Louis,
> > Missouri
> > Mlup Baitong, NGO, Cambodia
> > Moringa Energie Developpement SA, Senegal
> > Moringa Garden Circle
> > Moringa Research Agency, Kenya
> > NANA - National Nutrition Agency
> > National Agricultural Research Center, Saudi, Arabia
> > National Council of Churches USA
> > National Geographic Society
> > National Science Foundation
> > New GENESIS, Haiti
> > New York Botanical Garden, Botanical Science Research and Training
> > Office International de l'Eau, France
> > One Spirit, USA
> > Optima of Africa
> > Peace Corps
> > Permacultora Dominicana, Dominican Republic
> > Phytotrade Africa
> > Prek Leap National School of Agriculture, Cambodia
> > Presbyterian Church of the Sudan
> > PROPAGE - Association pour la Promotion des Ressources Végétales des
> > Régions arides et Semi Arides, France
> > Public Authority of Agriculture Affairs and Fish Resources - Forestry
> > and Range Dept., Kuwait
> > Purdue University, Center for New Crops & Plants Products
> > Rotary Club
> > RUAF - Resource Centre on Urban Agriculture & Forestry
> > Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew, England
> > Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
> > Rural Women's Movement, South Africa
> > Sehgal Foundation, India
> > Shakuntala Bidyadhar Trust
> > Silva Forest Foundation
> > Stoneleigh, Shroshire, England
> > The Berkeley Reafforestation Trust
> > The Center for the Improvement of Human Functioning International
> > Togo Nature Environment
> > Tokyo University of Agriculture, Department of Nutritional Science,
> > Japan
> > Trees for Africa
> > Trees for Life Moringa Project
> > TULUM Ltd.
> > UNICEF
> > United Methodist Committee on Relief
> > United Nations World Food Program
> > UNESCO - United Nations Educational, Social, and Cultural
> > Organization
> > Universidade de Fortaleza, Brazil
> > Université Abdou Moumouni, Niger
> > Université Cadi Ayad-faculté des Sciences Semlalia, Maroc
> > Universite Cheikh Anta diop de Dakar, Senegal Laboratory of
> > Nutritional Physiological Chemistry
> > Université d'Abomey-Calavi, Benin
> > University of Baroda, Vadodara, Gujarat, India
> > University of Botswana
> > University of Dschang, FASA, Cameroon
> > University of Ghana, Biochemistry Department
> > University of Hawaii - CTAHR
> > University of Kansas School of Medicine
> > University of Leicester, England
> > University of Stellenbosch, Dpt of Physiological Studies, South
> > Africa
> > University of the South Pacific, Suva, Fiji Islands
> > University of Wageningen, Division of Human Nutrition
> > U. S. Agency for International Development
> > U.S. Dept. of Agriculture, Forest Service - NFTA
> > Wangari Maathai Foundation
> > WECADI - Wakiso Environment Conservation and Development Initiative,
> > Uganda
> > WAECHE -Williams Adedayo Enter Community Health Evangelism, Nigeria
> > West Indies Self Help WISH Mission, Haiti
> > World Vision
> > World Water Forum
> > Zimbabwe Forestry Commission
> > Zimbabwe Rural District Council
> >
> > It impressed me because supposedly this "miracle tree" is being fed
> > to the starving people of the world.
> > My question is... Is it ok for me to believe in this tree? Shoot I
> > want to live long and prevent cancer. That damn drink was way too
> > expensive. ( I had to tell my cousin that it would be a luxury for
> > me to get auto-shipment of that crappy juice, so that she wouldn't
> > feel bad. But she hates me anyway because I told her that they sell
> > the tree (pods, flowers, leaves, powdered, and even seeds to grow in
> > your own backyard) at my local Asian supermarket. And there is a
> > farm growing that stuff locally here in San Diego.) I told her about
> > it and I think that is what pushed her over the edge to hate
> > me. "You didn't do the research, didn't you know that cooking it
> > will strip it of it's nutrients?" I said that I would eat it as a
> > salad. She said it would be too bitter. I said I am going to grow
> > one in my backyard. She said it won't grow here. She said, the
> > drink is formulated JUST RIGHT, so you absorb ALL the nutrients.
> > Dude, I am a fitness, nutrition, and health major. I told my Aunt
> > about our fight... I told her I was no longer going to debate with
> > her because I felt like I was in the boxing ring with a
> > quadraplegic. (please don't take offense, I hope you get the point)
> > I think this is a really good SCAM, let me know what you think? Zija
> > International
> > www.drinklifein.
> > Thanks for letting me vent again!
> >
>

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