Friday, May 25, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: Supplements and MLM's

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, jonathon <jblake@...> wrote:
>
> bitch_n_pack wrote:
>
> > jonathon, what mlm, what? ingredient? curious. 0.1 ?
>
> In roughly the last decade, lethal allergic reactions to it
> have increased exponentially. Not so oddly, this correlates
> with the increase in usage of the genetically modified product.
>
> > and most folks with that allergy usually know,
>
> way below that list.)
>
> > ask, were the massively over the top dosages they gave, a
natural? no
> > they weren't !! they were SYNTHETIC!!
>
>> xan
>
> jonathon
>
hi jonathon...you still did,nt tell me what??
this ingredient is.
and from what i sussed out re Moloringa oleifera (kelor tree) there
are no gm mods happening.. seems as tough as old boots as a basic
plant, hardly needing fiddling to boost anything?starting the
industry with "heritage" plants seems to have been a real issue.
i had never heard of it before. yes there is a toxin in the roots it
appears. although wikipedia mentions it. there is a blank as to
anything more about it.
Zijas web page is pretty pathetic, abbsolutely no data as to which
scientist /researcher year date anything to actually provide real
supporting details. and i did notice the drink version, does say all
material from plant..but also does not list any ingredient structure
for said drink version.
as i was browsing i did find some informative, detailed info from
other places. i actually think its a great tree. a lot like neem, for
being multipurpose etc. and as there are aussie growers i aim to
explore it further for mass plantings! so ithank you for starting a
new source of interest for me. ta!

quote... There are a lot of conflicting research in the nutrition
> industry --- especially when it comes to vitamins. Sometimes
> you can use logic to sift out whose data has been falsified.
> Sometimes you can't.
>
jonathan if logic can,t be used to assess wether a products affects
differently from another..we are in deeep doo doo!
synthetic vitamins are like the gm version..
looks like ,smells like etc. but! it is not .
example - on the molecular level- there are two spirals in the dna.
if the sides are twisted left, you get a mint plant, twisted right
you get something different. same dna in basis but the arrangement
alters the result.
the long term assimilation of gmo plants has NOT been , tested in
vivo, so there is no factual evidence one way or the other, in
humans! we are the test bunnies!
if every scientist that produced a gmo food product, was willing to
use/ eat etc , and including his family and ditto for all the owners
managers, for say 10+?? yrs and Prove it safe..(tissue ,blood, and
other test done too. well, maybe i would be more mellow about it.
till then , no way!
and that is how i feel about synthetic vitamins. why on earth create
them when there is a viable natural product? again its about the fact
if its naturally occuring it cant be drug co. patented,
(though they have patented human cell lines)go figure!
a combination of natural items can be though!
if they spend twice as much on the bloody advert campaign- as they
did making and testing...it should make you sit back and assess the
veracity and worth of the product though ?

quote
If the USDA, or FDA ordered all products that contain
> anything in the list of "ten most common allergies" to be
> removed from the market, both the food industry, and the
> health care industry would collapse.
>
> Most people with an allergy in that top ten list are not
> aware of it. It is only when you get below the top ten list,
> that individuals know what they are allergic to.(Sometimes

ok, what are the top 10 allergies?

is this death, ongoing illness type allergy? or a guts ache ,the
trots, a rash, what??
if the top ten sufferers aren,t aware.
umm well the 10 sufferers(per how many thousand) must be very, very
few, accounting for the massive amount of commercial foods with very
similar ingredients.
if these products/ingredients, are so common as to cause industry
collapse..if removed.. and are also in pharma products?
i am sorry, but- the industries would have crashed as the customer
base would have died off, surely! it only took years and thousands to
become ill or die for the worst of the statins and cox 2,s to be
pulled.
as to the "rising incidence,in last decade" well give me the links to
where you got this info. i do really now want to know
and again what!! allergy ??, to what! item.??
cheers, laurel
>

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