On 29 May 2007 at 15:23, Dawn _ wrote:
> Which tells me that this group is more about people who share a common mistrust or hatred of MLM's, who
> want to tell everyone that "All MLM's suck". In other words, it seems more a place for a whole "misery loves
> company" setting, as opposed to people who are willing to share their experiences about their past MLM
> experiences, in hopes of steering would-be MLM'ers away from those MLM's that have proven to be scams or
> pyramid-type structures.
Misery loves company my heiney. None of us here WANT to be here. With all your
supposed failures at MLM, you'd think you'd have some compassion for those people here
who have lost everything. This is a SURVIVOR group. Not whatever you want it to be.
> I thought that's what this group was about...a group of people who could act as a sounding board for others
> who are thinking about getting into an MLM; a group of people who would say, "My experience with X
> company was..." in hopes of helping someone steer away from that particular company because it proved to
> be less-than-honest. I didn't expect it to be of the mind that "All MLM's are evil! Stay away from them all!
> And if you believe that one might work, you're an idiot." How different is this from cult-like MLM's who allow
> you to believe only THEIR way of thinking?
In an AA meeting where there are SURVIVORS of alcohol abuse, do you steer them towards
the not so dangerous alcoholic beverages because you think they are okay? And now you go
on to compare this group that has given support, friendship and a light to those that have
needed it and when no one else could understand..
You have gone too far in my eyes. This group is as it has always been and you come in with
your expectations and apparently we don't meet them and you call us names and criticize?
> It's that whole, "Think like us, be like us, or be gone" mentality.
I don't go to a vegetarian group and extol the virtues of meat.
Do you think vegans care that I think some meats are better than others? Sometimes that
mentality you seem to think is so derogatory, is a good thing. In life, I am open to many
things and want to be fairminded but there are also many things I won't sit and listen to
because I don't need to. I will reread and reresearch the decisions and choices I make in life
but its on my own terms.
> This is a forum for exchange of opinion regarding MLM's. Not a structured, 12-step-type program. So
> please don't tell me that this is all that it's about.
Just because you don't think this group is stuctured like a 12 step program does not mean it
doesn't fit that bill for many here (an MLM AA ). I said to another member here that my
concern with your posts are for those that are here and NOT speaking. The ones that are
freshly hurt and coming to this group for support....and instead finding confusion.
> I do have to say, though, that what I wonder about is this: if someone is absolutely "anti-MLM", does that
> mean that they want NOTHING to do with MLM's at all? I mean, do any of you have a Tupperware container
> in your home that you got before they started selling product in the mall? How about a Pampered Chef
> baking stone? Maybe some Mary Kay lipstick? How about some kind of vitamin you got from someone in one
> of those companies like Shaklee, or Herbalife (or whoever)? How about that picture or wall sconce or candle
> you got at that last home party you attended? Did you check out the latest Avon catalog that was circulating
> around your office? Or maybe you have one of those "adult toys" in your dresser from that fun party you went
> to at your girlfriend's house?
Um....no, no, no, no, no, no, and no. We do not support MLMs in any form with our hard
earned money. At all...ever. I do not attend direct sales parties period and toss out the Avon
catalog that some poor soul keeps putting in my mailbox.
> Because of this, I think it's VERY important that we continue to educate people on the pitfalls of MLM's and
> all the scams and pyramid schemes out there that are posing as "businesses"
> deal, not only monetarily, but with respect to trust in ourselves and others, relationships, and a myriad of
> other things. But, let's try to be open minded enough to not drive people away just because they think slightly
> differently on the subject, and not completely back someone into a corner so they feel they need to defend
> everything about themselves.
And yet you've aligned this group with a cult, insinuated that the members are all loving their
misery.... all because the general thinking here isn't how you want it to be. There might even
be something to your business, I don't know, I don't care. And my guess is that some here
feel the same. In the future sometime, other people may be open to MLM businesses that
don't fit the mold, but for me, I'm done. Completely over it.
> That person just might have something profound to say that will impact
> ONE person's life.
Oh c'mon....are you really going to use MLM hype on US? Do you know how many times I've
heard this line from MLMers?
> Experiences will always vary from one person to another, as will opinions, which it appears is what this
> forum is about. But, having a different opinion doesn't make someone "wrong". It just makes them different.
> And for that, we should all be respected.
I do know what you are talking about. I preach respect daily on my own lists that while
geared toward a specific issue DO allow in any belief system. BUT I can only tell you why I
come here to this specific group and it is definitely NOT to hear the virtues of certain MLMs.
Lauren
PS...I do have a problem with the Pro MLM postings as of late and I DID voice that concern
several times already
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