I totally sympathize with you in your predicament. But to be blunt
with you.. Its not just your friend that is going to have to choose.
If past patterns are anything to go by, your friend is going to
chooose the MLM - You are going to have to choose to "comply" (be
"supportive" in MLM jargon), or you will be treated as someone that is
trying to stop them from being millionaires.
you is to perhaps "go to a meeting" - you think it will stop there
but it won't). At the very least, you will find yourself buying
expensive products to keep a relationship alive. That itself is
abhorrent in my opinion. So the ultimatum that you want to give her is
really yours - Are you willing to let go or at least step back and
consider life after your friend ? I don't want to be flippant about
it, but it IS that serious.
Good luck.
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> <mickwenlock@
>
> >>>krissy,
>
> Gawd what a truly awful experience.
>
> Why did you not say what the MLM is? In one way of course, it does not
> matter because they are almost all very similar in the application of
> cultic techniques, on the other hand there is no need to hide who they
> are.
>
> Unfortunately this is not something that is going to be easy or
> pleasant. Your friends' reaction to your rejection of the
> "opportunity" is a carefully laid in, programmed response. I am sure
> that you have not experienced any sort of spiteful behavior like this
> in the 11 years of your friendship - right? So it is something they
> have just recently learned.
>
> The way it is taught and programmmed in is as follows:
>
> 1) Their upline or sponsor or whatever has sold THEM on the
> opportunity and has gotten them all fired up about it.
>
> 2) then it is explained that "not everyone is like YOU (your friends)"
>
> 3) "A lot of people just cannot see, that's why they sit in dead end
jobs"
>
> 4) "Don't be surprised if people you thought you knew will not see it"
>
> 5) "only an idiot would turn it down"
>
> 6) "Good people support their friends"
>
> 7) "only a bad person would not support you in doing something that is
> such a great opportunity"
>
> Your friends have bought into the mindset hook, line and sinker. Your
> turning it down was a real shock for them. It is also a dose of
> reality that they do not wish to face - if the warmest of their "warm"
> market is not interested it does not bode well for their future -
> which is scary.
>
> You did the right thing - exactly the right thing. Your friendship has
> been torpedoed by this MLM and it is not your fault.
>
> Mick
>
> <<<<<<
>
> I'm glad for the warm response. :-) I'm sure you can imagine how
> earth-shattering this whole thing has been for me.
>
> I was hesitant to name the scam because I wasn't entirely sure it was
> allowed, but here it goes: It's Amway/Quixtar/
> which is short for "Leadership Team Development"
>
> My friend keeps trying to convince me that LTD is not just a part of
> Quixtar, but so far I haven't found it to be involved with anything
> other than it.
>
> I did force a conversation with her last night. It went rather like an
> intervention. She still doesn't believe me, but I managed to plan
> doubts in her mind about the whole thing.
>
> She started to tell me that I couldn't possibly understand, and I
> said, "Why, because I'm not in the Business? Did you get upline
> counseled to say that to me, or did your mentor tell you to say it?"
>
> Well, that sure gave her pause. How did I know about that? I told her
> that I can do the whole lingo thing, I know what it is, and I
> explained in further detail what will be expected of her, and that as
> far as I could see, this "LTD" thing is NOT a member of the BBB as
> they claim. Or maybe it's Quixtar claiming it; I don't know, I haven't
> been to a meeting, nor will I go to one.
>
> She told me that she didn't want to hear my negativity. Isn't that
> another catch-phrase of these groups? Anyone who doesn't support them
> is negative? She said those were her own words, but it sure sounded
> like a scripted response.
>
> Anyway, she says she hasn't paid anything into this so far, but she's
> already been taught to redefine (I think that was the word) her
> shopping habits by shopping for things on Quixtar instead of in shops.
>
> She was even trying to get me to buy things; she was telling me about
> how great the detergent is and how all her things look new. I was
> like, "Dude you are a walking commercial." I finally appeased her by
> saying I would consider going to a meeting with her, and that I'd be
> her customer, but I steered the conversation away into more pleasant
> things. She kept trying to bring up "the Business", but I always shot
> back with some of my knowledge from the Net and she'd get really quiet.
>
> I know it seems mean, but I can't help myself. I won't let our
> friendship go so easily, and she's not going to get me to roll over
> and be quiet on this issue. She'll eventually have to choose, I'm
> afraid -- and I'm not sure, based on what I've seen so far, if she'll
> have the ability to break free on her own, or until she can't make any
> money.
>
> Thanks to everyone for reading my rants. It's been a tough few weeks
> for me, and I get the impression that things will probably only get
> worse from now on.
>
> ~Krissy
>
>
> P.S. -- Has anyone heard of LTD before? The whole name seems too happy
> and shiny for my taste.
>
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