On Friday 14 September 2007, Margie James wrote:
> Ok, Hal.a very good description of the underworking of Team.I
> understand the numbers, money at functions etc..however, what I don't
> understand is how they can justify THIS particular function.
The answer is deeper than a "THIS function" issue.
And sorry for such a long post, but I'm explaining it in the best way I
know how because it is incredibly hard for a sane person to grasp just
how an IBDrone's thinking is bent and twisted and shaped and
controlled. I'm even using some personal examples so it helps to
connect with a real person and how many of us think.
Just recently someone quoted Dale Carnegie. I forgot who, but the point
of the quotation is that we are NOT logical beings. We are Humans, not
Vulcans. We love, we dream, and, most importantly for this situation,
we desire. We have dreams and we want them to come true. It may seem
off topic but I had a teacher in college that, in film class, said that
he felt writer/director of "The Blue Angel" knew more about desire and
sexuality than Hugh Hefner or all the other girly magazine publishers
combined (this was before the Internet and the Internet porn we've been
talking about). If you haven't seen it, it's about a distinguished
professor at a boys school who finds his students are skipping out at
night to see a singer (Marlene Dietrich) at a local nightclub. He goes
to see her to ask her to discourage the boys, but he is so drawn to her
that, in the long run, he gives up everything in his life to marry her
and ends up dying in shame as part of an absurd act on stage. There is
no sense in it, but he is so driven by desire, all he can see is
Dietrich's hot legs (which she shows a lot in that movie) and his
overwhelming lust to possess her.
Okay, maybe off topic, but what the AMOs do, whether it's TEAM or any
other one, is to fan the flames of lust. They excite the IBDrones the
way Dietrich excited the professor. They go out of their way to make
people lust over more and more. Just recently I've learned a few very
scary things about myself, but I'll share them because they're
important. I'm more of the "Bohemian" type. I like poetry,
Shakespeare, study esoteric forms of spirituality, love discussing film
and books (even Harry Potter, anyone want to talk about that off
list?). Generally I'm NOT materialistic. All my life I've done
whatever I could to "stick it to the man," but, as I've discussed with
some off list, as I run my business, I'm becoming "the man." Now I
find I have resources and even some influence. I never wanted that
before and I even eschewed it.
I would make excuses and say I was too high minded to care about
material wealth and about driving a Mercedes or being able to buy
stocks and so on. Then, as things improved for me, I admitted I wanted
a Mercedes (specifically either a 450SL, 380SL, or a 560SL, all are the
same style). While I always said I loved that particular style of
convertible, I avoided it, saying that fancy cars were for people that
needed to boost their own ego. Then, when that and other things came
within my reach, I realized they were not so bad. I made my "high
morals and ethics" into an excuse to hate what I did not have.
(Personal digression, if I may: some will notice that the only time I
mention my car is as a retort or response to the idiots and drones who
come in to brag about how they'll be rich and their MLM is the only way
to make it. I use it here to prove a point: On my own, I did it and
paid cash, so you're wrong. I made it without their crap and without
spending money to make money. I just never tell them that the dream
car Mercedes convertible I paid cash for and drive daily is 22 years
old! I considered getting a newer one, but realized there is no other
car I'd rather drive.)
I've found a lot of us do that. We talk poorly of those with opulent
mansions and talk trash about them, but there is a part of us,
somewhere inside, that wishes that instead of wanting to stick it to
THAT man, we want to be THAT man. Whether we admit it to ourselves,
that's what we want.
The AMOs are brilliant at knowing that and knowing that we all see
ourselves as important and brilliant, but also as unrecognized, so they
tell us we are brilliant and that we deserve a lot more. They tell us
we deserve that mansion and that we can have us. They force IBDrones
to dream big. One day they will have millions and will have that home
and can dress for a function, go into the garage, and pick the Rolls or
Lambo or whatever that matches our cloths to drive to that function.
I forgot who it was, but one member here wrote about how he wanted a
fishing boat. Nothing elaborate, just something he could take out to
go fishing. He told us how his sponsor took him to the marina and told
him, "Your dream isn't big enough," and told him he should dream about
a huge boat with bunks and everything.
A lot of people dream about the smaller boat because they think that's
all they can ever afford. They won't admit they'd like a bigger boat
(why does that make me think of the line, "We're going to need a bigger
boat!"), but down inside they do want it. Instead they admit to scaled
down dreams.
AMOs tap that. They say, "Yes, you do want it and you should want it."
They give IBDrones permission to admit, "Yes, *I* want that big boat.
I want a mansion. I do want all this and I can make it happen." That
last sentence is also important. They say, "You can make it happen."
Then they brainwash them even more and say, "But you can't make it
happen without us. We're your only way to be wealthy. No other way
will work."
Once they get that pattern set up, it's like training a dog. Once the
dog knows that he gets a bone if he does what you say, he always does
it. Remember, the king pins make a LOT of money off the functions.
They also use them to continue their brainwashing by keeping people
sleep deprived, bombarding them with bright lights and loud sounds, and
telling them everything they want them to believe.
Now with a direct answer: After all this is set up, you have IBDrones
that believe what their upline says. So for the first few conventions
they say, "This shows you the business and what it's like. It's
important you see what you're telling people about. You need to see
how we work." That gets people in and starts the brainwashing. From
there, it's easy to convince them, at each function, that THIS one is
the big one. It's the one you need to make it! This is the one that
will build your business more than anything.
After a few functions and the party atmosphere, the fun, the artificial
bonding, and so on, people are trained to look forward to these events
and see them as important to making any progress.
How do they justify it? Not with logic at all, but with emotions, but
with promises and lies and creating false hope. They don't have to
justify it to anyone because everyone believes whatever their upslime
wants them to believe.
> They
> are always told that this one is the ONE NOT TO MISS and this one
> will be the one THAT WILL MAKE IT WORK, and if they don't go they
> will fail...they say this EVERY time.
Yes, and they keep falling for it and they forget that's what was said
before. It's like a magician keeping people's attention away from
their hands.
> But, NOW they have NO business
> if they are a part of team, they have to quit Quixtar, correct? if
> they stay a part of Team? Don't they?
But the Team will watch out for them. It reminds me of a phrase on the
show Babylon 5, changed slightly, "The Team is Mother. The Team is
Father. Trust the Team." That's how the members are treated. The
Team cares for them. The Team loves them. The Team is their way to
success and salvation. Trust the Team. They won't hurt us, they love
us.
Forget that, for years, they've said the products for Quackstar are
great and now they are saying they aren't. Now they can say that is
why so few succeeded. They can say, "See, this is proof we care about
you. We want you to succeed. We want that so much, we're leaving
Quackstar and finding you a much better opportunity. Just stay with us
and we'll take care of everything for you."
Yes, it makes me want to puke as I'm sure it does everyone else here
with a measurable IQ.
> Now, I know that Team is in it to sell Motivation, but motivation for
> a business. What could a function at this point be for..motivate
> what..what will they actually say at this convention. Will they act
> like nothing has happened? And how can we find out what they say at
> a convention.I would like to know what is discussed.
They don't care. They can, for now, say, "We're motivating you to keep
going while we keep going. It's important now, more than ever, to keep
your attitude up while we're changing because we're going to set up
something even better and more wonderful than anything before, so you
HAVE to keep the faith and keep up the habits that will make you
successful."
No offense, but you are making one critical mistake: you are still
expecting things to work on a logical level and for IBDrones to think
clearly. That doesn't happen. I didn't just start calling the IBOs
IBDrones for fun. It's an important point. They are drones, like bees
that follow the queen, ants who can't think, or even (another TV/movie
reference -- I'm a screenwriter, it's how I think), the Borg in Star
Trek. Do NOT expect the IBDrones to think or reason or follow logic.
They cannot and will not.
> One more thing. I would like someone to try and predict something
> for me.
>
>
>
> My friends have been in Amway/Quixtar for at least 15 years, maybe as
> many as 20 years. Always "plugged in" as far as going to every big
> or Quarterly function. Buys all the tapes, website etc. Does not
> however go to the weekly meetings, monthly, and are not actively
> "showing the stupid plan".over the years I have known them 12 years,
> they have gone "IN AND OUT OF" the "I got to build it hard now" and
> robotically trying to show the plan, to not building at all, but
> continuing to be loyal to these Functions and BSM's, and buying
> products.
>
>
>
> Now, during these 15 years they have ALWAYS bought all these core
> products.vitamin, XS, toilet paper, paper towels, soap, energy bars
> and more.I mean their house is full of these products.my friend only
> uses Artistry for her make-up..15 years of the same products!
>
> Now this has to be a total shock to their system to
> stop buying these products. To them these are the best of the best.
>
>
>
> Can someone predict, how their minds will justify NOT buying these
> products anymore. How will they change their thinking to adapt to
> this new Team "whatever it turns out to be"? Can someone that has
> been in that mindset tell me?
You're asking for something only a psychic could do or a psychologist
who's been working with those particular people for many years. And,
as any psychic can tell you, there's this pesky thing called free will
that can get in the way of any prediction.
Overall, though, it sounds like they are rather weak willed and could
easily be convinced to like whatever products the Team is hawking.
Hal
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