Saturday, September 15, 2007

Re: [MLM Survivors Club] Help?!?!? - a long story

You know that you have only one choice---get out of Quix. How? You will have to navigate that. But knowing you must go is the main thing. Congratualations!

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From: jengerbreadnga <jengerbreadnga@yahoo.com>
To: mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:54:48 PM
Subject: [MLM Survivors Club] Help?!?!? - a long story

I am currently a Quixtar "IBO". I question that term. I have been
in the business since 2005. I am to the point where I do like the
products but the business itself is just not my thing. When this
plan was first presented to me, I was extremely skeptical. I was
approached by a guy I know very well. I learned that his parents
were involved and he had recently joined after being around the
business. The trouble for me is that his dad is my "real" boss so to
speak. At first I was awestruck just like many other first timers.
The promise of riches if you work hard for just 2-5 years only 15-20
hours a week. I think I first got involved because it made sense.
The people were so nice and happy and they were young like me so I
could relate to them. I have attended open meeting after open
meeting, rally after rally and function after function. I have to
say, they are excellent motivators but they didn't really tell me how
to make this work. I can't even begin to tell how much money I have
spent that I really don't have.

The last major function I went to was where my faith in this business
system started to disappear. My upline platinum was paraded across
stage and they asked them to say their name and how much their
average check was each month. The way my upline acts and presents
themselves I thought surely they were making the big bucks. When
they came across stage they said their names and then they said $3200
a month....$3200. ...I make more than that with my regular job AFTER
taxes are taken out. I was shocked. I still am and that's been a
few months ago. That's a gross income of $38000 extra a year... I
still make more than that. Not to mention the cost for the open
meetings, rallys and functions. Now that's a little lower than what
they should be making at a platinum level if I understand the plan
correctly. They seem to really be putting their all into this
business too....At this point I have lost focus on the weekend.

This last function I went to was a leadership and I think that is
where the real "change" occured and I don't mean that in a good way.
I work a 40 hour week already and have other activities that I enjoy
doing. Am I the richest person in the world no, but I am rather
content for the most part. They have preached this delayed
gratification but come on life is short. We are not promised
tomorrow so why delay now? I don't mean you should indulge but
still..... So back to this function. I really didn't want to go.
Besides it's 3 days of nothing but energy drinks and sleep
deprivation. I love the energy drinks but how many times can one
listen to the same stuff over and over and over and over again. As
what I think was a ploy to make sure I went, my sponsor offered to
let me ride with them and room with them to save money as well. The
total cost for this weekend out of my pocket was $180.00. That's a
lot of money to me. I sat there this whole weekend and found myself
quietly rolling my eyes as they spewed the same stuff they spew
everytime they talk. totalling up most functions, the ticket is about
$100 the hotel another $100, gas and food about $100 so $300 per
function and 4 functions a year that's $1200. If you add in the
smaller ones I'm sure you will get up to $2000 which after taxes
doesn't leave my upline platinum with a whole lot of money.

You know if you saved that $1200 annually in an interest bearing
account you'd probably have more money at the end of the year than
you would have if you did Quixtar for 2 years.

I am to the point where I just don't want to hear it anymore. There
were so many speakers crying at this function it was really over the
top and I wanted to throw up. They say "get sold out to this
business" and I really think they are crazy. I feel bad for these
people because I am starting to see this for what it really is. I'm
a single person and they say buy your own products but there is only
so much Tea and XS someone can drink. I have so much crap in my
closets from this it's ridiculous. They preach to you to create
customer volume but seriously, the cost of the products are so high
most of my friends and relatives would rather get a better bargain at
walmart. I don't doubt the quality of the products but on a
financial level I spend $250 with Quixtar and I don't get a fourth of
what I could get at Walmart. I see how many people leave this after
just a few months or years the money spent versus the money earned,
you'd be lucky to break even.

I hate being cynical about this. It's not that this couldn't work
but it's that they do this in the name of Christianity. For me it
gets old. Yes they get you there and then there's the "optional non-
denomination" church service on Sunday morning. They keep saying it's
optional but I'll tell you upline makes you feel obligated. They
preach that this business is what God wants and I don't believe it
is. God wants a relationship with you. He will make everything else
fall into place. To make matters worse my sponsor and his wife
wanted to talk about the function on the car ride home... I got to
where I pretended to be asleep. Then I hear her ask the
question "what made you mad this weekend?" his response "that we
don't have anyone on the team than the 3 of us"...Wow... from the way
he talked you would think he has at least 3 legs and he is just
dollars away from platinum. What does that do to me, makes me feel
bad for him, because he did sound dejected and part of me wants to
help, I think that's the brainwashing kicking in. The logical part
of me is telling me to back away slowly. They are pumping up FED
which is fast approaching but I have no plans to go. i am tired of
the long rides, uncomfortable seats and sleep deprivation. They may
call me a loser or say I'm not sold out but you know what, my
salvation is number 1 not some "business opportunity" presented in
the name of Christianity. I don't buy it anymore and can't say that
I ever truly did. I struggle with committing myself to my upline
because I am an individual and don't like anyone to dictate my life
for me. They say with every decision you make, counsel upline first
because they know what is best. They didn't know the real me outside
of this business so how can they say what is best for me.?

My dilemma is the fact that I work with them. I'm not sure how
to "end" this all. I have come up with excuse after excuse for not
going to meetings and functions and I keep getting the same
questions/answers. "We really want to get some people started for
you" "This thing is really taking off" "The new money is coming"
Nothing but a passive aggressive pressure. I'm really just sick of
it all. I don't listen to the cds anymore because it's the same
stuff over and over and over. How many times can you really do that
before you either become a zombie or want to throw up. I don't read
the books anymore either. I would like to just get the products at
the "IBO" cost but trying to get someone signed up... that's just not
me. I got a friend signed up and they didn't renew. I'm glad I
didn't ruin the friendship from all of this. I'm just apprehensive
because I don't want to lose my day job. I know it wouldn't be legal
to do it and he is not the head man in charge but he is rather high
up on the list. Sorry this is so long but any advice would be
helpful.

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