A Big thank you for taking the time to retort!!!!!
Allow me to admit I didn't share my conclusion and was deeply
interested in others analysis.
AMO (Amway Motivational Organization) who make up the IBOA (Independent
Business Owner Association)
......Based on what I am about to say - Please don't throw rotten
vegetables at me. lol ....
Are exceptional, Top of the Top, at conveying a message they want you
to hear and act on.
It takes time to really analyze and validate what is being said. They
are damn good!
I feel the entire-whole-
mess with all parties involved being lying sacks of _ _ _ _
............
I realize many have been crushed by the Amway Blob(my reading here and
many other forums). Please understand I am not in anyway making light
of the pain you have gone through.
Make a prediction of what you think will happen in the months to come
AND your reason.
Reason:
The `company Amway' has FAR more money compared to the AMO/IBOA
members fighting.
The `company Amway' now has three HUGE law suits(USA,
California; Europe; India) along many individual law suits.
The `company Amway' has very little loyalty compared to the
Huge loyalty of the AMO/IBOA members fighting.
The media reports from the `company Amway' SPIN make them look
like dorks compared to the AMO/IBOA members fighting.
Prediction – 24 months from now:
Amway will be bankrupt.
75% probability - The AMO/IBOA members fighting will be a struggling
group.
25% probability - The AMO/IBOA members fighting will be growing.
Wishy Washy I know. lol – but they are so damn good at being bad. (I
mean that to be their effectiveness at being wicked-dishonest)
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<cantonoh2003@
>
>
> As I have mentioned before my wife signed up with "Team" around
> the beginning of summer. It wasn't until the Amway shake-up in
> August that I became serious in learning what "Team" was about
> and the conflict taking place.
>
> As a note: Personally I have always found business news
> fascinating/
>
> I'm not sure if anyone is interested but I thought I would share
> the website created by those who left Amway/Quixtar. FreeTheIBO –
> "Home of Woodward et al. v. Quixtar"
>
> www.freetheibo.
>
>
>
> IMHO, I found most interesting the Blog section:
> "Free The Quixtar IBO Blog" -
> http://freetheibobl
<http://freetheibobl
>
>
> All the blogs are an interesting read, if you like this kind of stuff.
> lol
>
>
>
> Here's a summary from former IBOAI Board Member Chuck Goetschel
> answers the question "How did Amway/Quixtar get in this mess?"
> According to him all the problems stem from the fact that Amway
products
> became much higher priced that the marketplace and from there the
Domino
> effect begin — one fall causing the next…
>
> Despite the high products price Amway was able to continue to sell
> products, but they were being purchased by the business owners for
> personal use in order to achieve bonuses. The high prices made it
> nearly impossible to retail the products.
>
> A legitimate business opportunity slowly and unnoticeably slide into
a
> pyramid status.
>
> New IBOs not able to retail products the focus became registering as
> many people as you can. Motto "Register 9-12 and you'll find
> your three."
>
> The high ratio of fallout/failure, a negative image grows. With a
> negative image it becomes even harder to sponsor people and the cycle
> continues.
>
> Then after enough failure occurs, lawsuits are filed.
>
> As a result of all the lawsuits that threaten the very existence of
the
> business, Amway/Quixtar attorneys are now running the show. There
> decision are based on whatever makes the business more legally
secure.
> Legally secure and making a profit are not necessarily the same.
>
>
>
>
> A segment from Former IBOAI Board Member Chuck Goetschel blog:
>
> "…….We have continually requested that the Company allow us to
> share the income opportunity of the system openly. They have denied us
> that ability citing that being transparent with the potential system
> income is wrong, as it could be considered "enticement" to
> register in the Amway/Quixtar business. Meanwhile on many websites
and
> blogs throughout the internet, the IBO leaders are being painted as
> crooks by not being open about their system businesses. How ironic is
> that?
>
> In fact, Ron Simmons as recently as June 5, 2007 emailed the Company
> attorney Gary VanderVen, requesting that at least on Company blogs
they
> share the truth that the Company "has prohibited IBOs from being
> transparent about system income."
>
> Orrin and Chris Brady attempted to start this process through their
> explanations in a book and online and, even without disclosing
incomes,
> were threatened with suspension by the Corporation.
>
>
> Orrin and Chris disclosed that there are really multiple sources of
> income: Amway/Quixtar products, sales of ticket events and BSMs, and
> speaking at events. Each of these is based on a compensation plan
where
> any individual can achieve the same or more income than anyone in the
> upline business support team.
>
> An analogy they used was a car dealership.
>
>
> Say you wanted to sell new cars and started a business doing so
creating
> income.
>
>
> As people wanted to trade-in their cars to buy a new one, you found
> yourself additionally in the used-car sales business, now with a
second
> income.
>
>
> Next, people came in with their car wanting service so you start a
> service business—income number three.
>
>
> The service business needs parts so you start a parts
> businesss—income number four.
>
>
> Certainly, there is nothing wrong with these other sources of income.
If
> you made more income in your service business than in selling new cars
> (your original business) is there anything morally wrong with that?
Is
> your primary business selling new cars or are you just in the car
> business with multiple businesses interlinked? Finally, what if
someone
> was considering starting a new car sales business and you were to
share
> your knowledge of it with them? Should you not share the other
> interlinked businesses in the discussion even though they may never
get
> to that point?
>
> Open disclosure on this topic is a large battle between the field
> leadership and the Corporation. I believe the Amway/Quixtar reputation
> suffers less when this knowledge is hidden.
>
>
> They can then discredit the IBO leadership rather than allow the
public
> to learn the truth of how little profit margin remains in the
> Amway/Quixtar products after the DeVos and VanAndel families take
their
> cut. However, as the Company takes over the BSM business with their
new
> contracts, this will be a moot point, as they will have the power to
> regulate pricing and profits on BSMs as well……"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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