Sunday, July 29, 2007

[MLM Survivors Club] Re: A friend asked me a question..

--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@yahoogroups.com, mick wenlock
<mickwenlock@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hal,
>
> Yes, I agree - if you were in a store and could not understand the
clerk then you would be doing the store a favor by pointing it out.
>
> But that is because the store is there to sell you things, that is
the clerk's job. You are a customer, they are a seller.
>
> This is *not* a store - it's a mailing list of people who are here
because of different reasons. Such lists exist for people to talk
(well, write) . If I were in a pub with a bunch of people and someone
was talking who I did not understand I would not proceed to give him
or her a lecture on how to talk - I would just ignore them.
>
> Criticizing people for the way they write rather than what they are
writing about strikes me as going against what mailing lists and
discussion groups are about.
>
> Mick
>
> Hal Vaughan <hal@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, the reason I wrote what I did is because I think this
person
> is capable of making some quite good points, but I know I skip
most of
> what she says for the reasons I indicated. In many ways, pointing
out
> something like that is a favor. If I go into a store and am
treated
> rudely by a clerk and just leave, never to go back, I'm letting
the
> clerk hurt the store, but if I point out to the manager what is
going
> on, then I'm helping them and potentially keeping them from losing
> business.
>
> Yes, it's a discussion, but there are minimal standards for just a
> discussion. If I get invited over to someone's house to watch TV
for
> an evening and show up in my underwear only, what does that say
about
> me and how will they see me? There are minimal standards for
almost
> any human interaction.
>
> > Sorry hal but all the "I am not attacking the writer.." waffle
> > doesn't mean that your post is anything other than an ad hominem.
>
> Yes, and now. I'm focusing on the behavior, not on her. It's a
fine
> line, but it's one I had to work with all the time in special ed.
It's
> just as if someone makes a long post talking about how wonderful
their
> new MLM is and any of us take it apart. We may be focusing on
their
> lack of logic, their lack of reasoning, their opinions and so on.
This
> is focusing on the writer's lack of effort in communicating.
>
> I also know that you're not going to scream that I disagree with
you and
> that you're someone I can openly disagree with and there not be a
nasty
> shouting war or pouting. I see your points and considered them
all
> before posting. Personally, I could barely understand what the
writer
> was saying, otherwise I would not have responded as I did.
>
> Hal
>
> > Mick
> >
> > Hal Vaughan <hal@...> wrote:
> > This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or
what
> > she thinks, but it is a point to all those who don't care enough
to
> > make their posts readable. (And I repeat that paragraph a
number of
> > times in this message to make the point it's not about her, it's
> > about posts written so poorly it's hard to know what is being
said.)
> >
> > On Saturday 28 July 2007, bitch_n_pack wrote:
> > > ---hi, i like jen also am wondering why?? you would be using
so
> > > much of this stuff.
> > > if you have a dog off his tucker hes crook usually. or the
foods
> > > not appealing, or its just plain too well fed..
> > > a fast day also works! and its free!
> >
> > This isn't meant as an attack on who the writer is or what she
> > thinks, but it is a point to all those who don't care enough to
make
> > their posts readable.
> >
> > I stopped reading this post here. Why? I couldn't follow it or
> > understand it. I'm not trying to be judgemental or
condescending,
> > but this has come up before. I have a learning disability and,
> > without spellcheck, would have a terrible time making sure my
email
> > was readable (no, not dyslexia, but not far off). I work hard
and
> > have to retype many words and sentences because I get letters and
> > words mixed up. I do that because I want people to understand
what
> > I'm writing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Yo, Brutus, you just glad to see me or is that a knife under
your
> > cloak?"Julius Caesar
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> hi there!
i am constantly amazed at- what it is? that is so hard to
understand ,for you guys.
my use -or lack of- capitals, is hardly uncommon.
ok it's lazy, so??
if you read what i write, out loud.
well ,i write as i speak.
and i read as if someone was telling me a story.
hmm? am i so obscure??
just imagine we are chatting..isn,t this a chat room?
back to the subject.
i did check that site.
i really don,t see that the product has any greater value than
yoghurt, or similar food cultures.
the fecal coliform bacteria sounded as if it could be a bit gross in
truth. maybe yakult type stuff in the dogsmilk would be as good?
as to the company and weird range of products. well,
somehow i think they are a lot like amway. buy other manufacturers
and re-label at a high margin.
and absolutely no info on the miracle cleaner, is very suss.
if this isn't understandable enough..
well, so be it.
personally i find some pretty scatty stuff, but if i want to read it
i persevere.
i would love someone to translate jonothans efforts for me.
and btw, i am still waiting for his reply as to what? allergies he
was saying were most common and unknown.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Yo, Brutus, you just glad to see me or is that a knife under your
cloak?"Julius Caesar
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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