Thank you so much for you advice- you seem to have hit the nail on
the head as far as the problem- this abuse is hard enough to deal
with in a family, but to have the quixtar people surrounding her and
brainwashing her and keeping her from the help she needs is nearly
devastating. And to top it all off, she was 6 hours away by car
when this incident happened, and all she had was quixtar people
around her. It is vERY difficult to separate the abusive behavior
from the Amway behavior- they are so similar!!!!!
exhibiting controlling behavior since they got deep into the
business and it shows no signs of letting up. Do you think I should
confront her upline or don't say anything to them? Thanks.
--- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
<Narcissedespres@
>
> Gardeningkelly-
>
> My heart goes out to you. I read your post and from the details
you
> provided, my best analysis of the situation is that Quixtar is
more of
> a symptom than a cause. Often abusers come from controling,
abusive
> families themselves, which sounds like it may be the case here.
> Although Quixtar is certainly not helping the situation in any way,
> the physically abusive behavior and is not typical of Quixtar,
> although the controlling behavior is fairly common (from my
> understanding and experience, but other's may have information
that I
> don't). From what you said, it is likely that similar behavior by
your
> daughter's husband and his family would be present even if Quixtar
> wasn't in the picture. However, it sounds like the messages she is
> getting in Quixtar (i.e. "Don't quit" "Other's won't understand
your
> dreams", etc.) are having an even more devistating effect that
usual
> because of the abusive situation. The upline is acting in an
> extremely irresponsible way by attempting to "counsel" your
daughter.
>
> An abusive relationship can be extremely difficult to leave with
> Quixtar in the picture too, a terrible situation seems to have
become
> even more unmanageable.
>
> I don't know where you are located (and I'm not asking you to
disclose
> that information!
> resources specific to abused women, and other avenues of help.
Some
> areas also have a 24 hour emergency hotline (that may be
> confidential)
area
> would be (as far as restraining orders, orders of protection,
etc).
> However, since there is a child involved, if you feel that your
> grandchild may be in danger, you may choose to make a CPS report.
> Even if a child is not being abused, if the child is in an abusive
> home a CPS report can be made. These reports can be made at any
time
> and are confidential. You could also try to give your daughter
> numbers she could call if she wants to seek out non-Quixtar help.
>
> I hope that something I wrote will be of some help. If there is any
> more information or clarification you need regarding anything I
wrote,
> please let me know. Either way, I sincerely hope that we can be of
> some help and comfort to you here.
>
> -EA
>
>
> --- In mlmsurvivorsclub@
> <gardeningkelly@
> >
> > Hi- I wrote last in May, that my daughter was being brainwashed
by
> > her husband's family. Thanks for the support and the
information I
> > received. I'm freightened to even write this, because I see I
could
> > have hidden my e-mail name, but I'm so frantic at this point I
don't
> > care. She has been married a little over a year and instantly
> > became involved with Quixtar through his family, who live in
Arden
> > Hills, MN. They are under Mr. Smith who is under Burt Gulick.
I
> > have spent the past couple of months reading everything I can
get
> > ahold of and gathering my information and trying to be very
careful
> > with what I say. In the meantime, her husband began physically
> > abusing her. Another instance, the husband and his sister
kidnapped
> > the baby (she was breastfeeding) and wouldn't tell her where the
> > baby was for over 3 hours. After his, she came home and refused
to
> > go back until he received anger management counselilng. He
> > supposedly was going, until we discovered that he had lied about
> > it. The got "marriage counseling" from their "upline". (Can
you
> > tell how frantic I am?) There have been 3 major instances of
> > physical abuse, the last one was last weekend in Missouri at the
> > Quixtar Family Reunion in (Osage Beach?) Missouri. They got
into a
> > physical altercation and our daughter called us and asked us to
come
> > and get her as she said she as afraid he was going to kill her.
We
> > called his parents, and his mother, a long-time Amway sales
> > prostitute from hell, proceeded to tell us why his violence was
all
> > my daughter's fault for starting the argument in the first
place,
> > and they would be counseled by Mr. Smith. We got into a
shouting
> > match on the phone, and I insisted this time that if they
thought
> > they were going to have their upline "counsel" them again and
> > anything happened to my duaghter, I was going to sue them, Mr.
> > Smith, Mr. Gulick, all the way up to that motherfucker Yager,
excuse
> > my language, with every cent and breath I had until my dying
day.
> > Well, suddenly my duaghter's visit was canceled, the son came to
> > pick up the dog and wouldn't let me see my grandchild, and I got
a
> > phone message from my daughter that I could never see my
grandchild
> > again or her future children because I "teach bad (negative)
things"
> > and "yes, mom, family members who aren't in Quixtar get pushed
away
> > by us because we grow and you don't". My husband is trying to
keep
> > the lines of communication open to her. I fear for her life and
her
> > safety and my grandchild's safety. I'm so damned sick of
hearing
> > those Amway quips "Quitters never win!" "Leaders are
> > readers!" "Stay positive!". I'm still reading the online book,
I'm
> > halfway through the Smoke and Mirrors book. I'm despirate, I
feel
> > like I'm a caged animal, I feel like I'm at the edge of a lake
> > watching my child drown and someone is holding me back from
swimming
> > out to save her. I can't sleep, I can't eat, and I'm feeling
like
> > this is a nightmare I'll never wake up from. Help.
> >
>
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